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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050818/...HE0BHNlYwN0bWE-

    BTK Serial Killer Gets Life in Prison
    By ROXANA HEGEMAN, Associated Press Writer 16 minutes ago



    BTK serial killer Dennis Rader was ordered to serve 10 consecutive life terms Thursday during a tear-filled hearing in which relatives of his victims called him a monster and said he should be "thrown in a deep, dark hole and left to rot."

    The sentence — a minimum of 175 years without a chance of parole — was the longest possible that Judge Gregory Waller could deliver. Kansas had no death penalty at the time the killings were committed.

    The two-day hearing featured graphic testimony from detectives and sobbing relatives. It culminated with rambling testimony from Rader, who said he had been dishonest to his family and victims and at times wiped his eyes.

    "Nancy's death is a like a deep wound that will never, ever heal," Beverly Plapp, sister of victim Nancy Fox, testified. "As far as I'm concerned, Dennis Rader does not deserve to live. I want him to suffer as much as he made his victims suffer."

    "This man needs to be thrown in a deep, dark hole and left to rot," she said. "He should never, ever see the light of day."

    Rader offered Biblical quotes, thanks to police and an apology to victims' relatives before he was sentenced.

    "A dark side is there, but now I think light is beginning to shine," Rader said. "Hopefully someday God will accept me."

    Rader, 60, a former church congregation president and Boy Scout leader, led a double life, calling himself BTK for "bind, torture and kill." He was arrested in February and pleaded guilty in June to 10 murders from 1974 to 1991.

    "No remorse, no compassion — he had no mercy," said Kevin Bright, the brother of victim Kathryn Bright, who himself was shot but managed to flee. "I think that's what he ought to receive."

    Rader's voice choked as he made his half-hour address to the courtroom, saying he had been dishonest to his family and victims and selfish.

    "I know the victim's families will never be able to forgive me. I hope somewhere deep down, eventually that will happen," he said.

    He also admitted he tracked his victims "like a predator."

    Nola Foulston, Sedgwick County District Attorney, asked the judge that Rader be refused anything in prison, such as markers or crayons, that could be used to draw or write about human or animal forms, or anything that might be used to further his sexual fantasies.

    Prosecutors earlier flashed a photograph of Rader wearing a mask, tied to a chair and donning a woman's blond wig. They also showed other pictures the killer took in which he had bound himself and was wearing a dress he had taken from a victim's house — apparently reliving the ecstasy of the murder.

    Investigators testified that Rader kept hundreds of pictures from magazines and circulars mounted on index cards, with details of the warped sexual fantasies he dreamed of carrying out.

    Lt. Ken Landwehr, who coordinated the Wichita police department's investigation into BTK, said the index cards were some of the evidence of Rader's long history of terror that was found at the defendant's office, camper and small suburban home.

    Landwehr said the cutouts ranged from a little girl posing in a swimsuit to actress Meg Ryan.



    Rader's files also included copies of nearly all his messages to police and the media, do ents Landwehr said the killer had planned to eventually scan and digitally store, Landwehr said.

    Containers kept in a closet and elsewhere at his home also held what Rader called "hit kits" — bags with rubber gloves, rope, tape, handcuffs and bandanas.

    Rader, sitting through his second day of a sentencing hearing, appeared angry and mumbled at one point during Landwehr's testimony, although Rader's words couldn't be heard.

    Capt. Sam Houston of the Sedgwick County Sheriff's Office testified about Rader's last known killing — the strangulation of 63-year-old Dolores Davis in 1991. Rader, who handcuffed Davis and tied her with pantyhose, told police it took two or three minutes for her to die and that fueled his torturous fantasies for years.

    "It was this moment that victim was tied and bound," Rader wrote in a journal, according to testimony Thursday morning by Houston. "He could live in that moment for years."

    After Davis was dead, Rader tossed her body under a bridge where it decomposed and apparently was fed on by animals. The defendant returned later to take Polaroid photographs of her wearing a feminine mask Rader himself had worn for his own bondage fantasies. The sentencing hearing was in many ways is a formality, with the only issue before the judge whether Rader would serve his life sentences consecutively or concurrently.

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    too bad no death penalty, as it was not there when he committed the crimes.

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    This dude is one sick . This is definitely a case where the death penalty is warranted.

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    death penalty = general population for this one
    Agreed. Hopefully, the gen population will take "good" care of him.

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    I always will find people wishing death upon someone because they are "sick s" pretty ironic.

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    I always will find people wishing death upon someone because they are "sick s" pretty ironic.
    Ok, here it goes.....

    How would the death penalty not be a just sentence for this man?

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    i agree with manny, no death penalty for this guy. in fact, i think a life sentence is too harsh too. we don't know his childhood... i think we need to find out why he committed these crimes. this is an injustice!

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    If you posters are so bent on having him die then every poster here mail me 15 dollars then I'll fly up to where ever he's at and shank him.

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    I always will find people wishing death upon someone because they are "sick s" pretty ironic.
    That's pretty self-righteous. No matter how you feel about the death penalty, you can't draw comparisons of relative 'sickness' between someone who ejaculates on a little girl while he's hanging her and those who would wish death on such a person.

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    I said nothing about the sentencing of this man or any of the cir stances surrounding the case. I'm done with the death penalty arguements in here.

    What I said was that I find it ironic that people wish death upon someone because they have killed. If you can't see the obvious irony in that situation, I'm not going to worry about it.

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    Maybe they will let you have a conjugal visit with him Manny.

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    That's pretty self-righteous. No matter how you feel about the death penalty, you can't draw comparisons of relative 'sickness' between someone who ejaculates on a little girl while he's hanging her and those who would wish death on such a person.
    But isn't that exactly what people who wish death on someone are doing? Aren't they saying their condoning of death is ok because of their justifications while another persons reasons for killing don't meet the standard?

    If I am being self righteous, I am not doing so anymore than people who do what I mentioned.

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    Silly Rabbits, death penalty is for black people.

    For the record, with the courts blesssing, I could put 10 bullets in BTK's noggin, and feel kind of good.

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    I said nothing about the sentencing of this man or any of the cir stances surrounding the case. I'm done with the death penalty arguements in here.

    What I said was that I find it ironic that people wish death upon someone because they have killed. If you can't see the obvious irony in that situation, I'm not going to worry about it.
    well it's not even that he just "killed". did you read about how he tortured his victims? it is all pretty sick. IMO the death penalty is an easy out.. he'd die from a lethal injection..wow. it ain't torture.

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    But isn't that exactly what people who wish death on someone are doing? Aren't they saying their condoning of death is ok because of their justifications while another persons reasons for killing don't meet the standard?
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    None of that applies in this case. Due to the extreme nature of these killings, it would be the natural, honest reaction of any person to wish this person dead. That doesn't make them sick s, just normal human beings. Anyone can take a strictly philosophical stance on this and say it's wrong to wish someone dead under any cir stances, but I don't think they're being very honest with themselves. Anyone can argue that it's wrong to kill under any cir stances, but unless their name is Jesus Christ, I seriously doubt they can say they've never met or heard of anyone they would wish death on. Even the staunchest death penalty opponent who has read the details of these ten murders would have to admit that at least on an emotional level they'd wish death on this guy.
    Last edited by Jelly; 08-18-2005 at 10:10 PM.

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    None of that applies in this case. Due to the extreme nature of these killings, it would be the natural, honest reaction of any person to wish this person dead. That doesn't make them sick s, just normal human beings. Anyone can take a strictly philosophical stance on this and say it's wrong to wish someone dead under any cir stances, but I don't think they're being very honest with themselves. You can argue that it's wrong to kill anyone under any cir stances, but unless their name is Jesus Christ, I seriously doubt they can say they've never met or heard of anyone they would wish death on. Even the staunchest death penalty opponent who has read the details of these ten murders would have to admit that at least on an emotional level they'd wish death on this guy.
    First of all, let us clarify something here. You didn't say it, but you implied it. I in no way called anyone here a sick . Ok?

    Next, I disagree with your assertion that everyone has a natural reaction to this situation to want him dead. I don't want him dead. I do think there are situations were killing is a nessecary action, but I consider those all self defense options where there is nothing else to be done.

    However, even if I agreed with you that everyone had an emotional reaction to want this man dead, I would still argue that our actions are not allowed to be govenred by emotion and thereby makes the emotional aspect of things irrelevent. Crimes of passion anyone?

    You're allowed your opinion on human reaction, but I know what mine is and it does not go along with your theory. And yes, the origional point where I find it ironic that someone wishes death on someone for killing is still valid. But, irony is subjective so by no means do you have to agree.

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    First of all, let us clarify something here. You didn't say it, but you implied it. I in no way called anyone here a sick . Ok?

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    you're right. The way your original comment was worded, I did think you were implying that the people here who wished death on this guy might 'ironically' also be sick s. glad you clarified.

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    manny manny manny...i honestly want to agree with you on this...but come on look at his action and you tell me honestly, no death penalty?

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    at:

    Silly Rabbit, Death Sentences is for Black people

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    I don't understand why it is so hard to believe a standard of not killing in any non self defense situations.

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    I don't understand why it is so hard to believe a standard of not killing in any non self defense situations.

    it would be nice but so would equallity and true freedom

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