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Crawford deserves it.
Early in the year it looked as if it was a lock, ESPN even predicted Manu was going to win 'comfortably'.
Since then, some injuries have occurred and some could argue that against his case. Most websites mention Ginobili as a favorite to win, the only two that really get mention as much or ahead of him are Jamal Crawford and Taj Gibson.
Ginobili vs. Compe ion:
Ginobili: 12.4 ppg, 4.3 apg, 3.0 rpg
PER: 20.35 MPG: 22.8
Gibson: 13.2 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.4 bpg.
PER: 16.64 MPG: 28.7
Crawford: 18.6 ppg, 3.2 apg, 2.3 rpg
PER: 17.43 MPG: 30.3
Markeiff Morris: 13.7 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 0.9 bpg
PER: 18.39 MPG: 26.5
Vince Carter: 12.0 ppg, 2.7 apg, 3.5 rpg
PER: 16.29 MPG: 24.4
Nick Young: 17.6 ppg, 1.5 apg, 2.6 rpg
PER: 15.64 MPG: 28.2
Obviously this would be great for Manu's career considering most people counter the Spurs and especially Manu out this year. We even had fans wanting him to be traded. This would solidify his hall of fame status for the doubters. I think considering the Spurs have the best record, he has a legitimate chance. Even if Manu doesn't win it, it's really impressive what he has done this year. I couldn't ask much more from him.
Last edited by N0 LyF3 ScRuB; 04-12-2014 at 03:30 PM.
Crawford deserves it.
I think he definitely has a shot, but I can also see the award going to Gibson or Crawford. Although, I do hope manu wins it, he really turned it around this year.
ESPN literally just posted a 6th man prediction, and it going to Gibson.
The unforeseen emergence of Gibson as a dependable late-game option offensively, on top of his established mobility and versatility on D, hasn't just rendered former All-Star Carlos Boozersurplus to requirements for Tom Thibodeau.
It's a surprise development that should also enable Gibson to prevail here in the Sixth Man Award race despite being faced with the usual crowded field co-headlined by the affable (and forever flammable) Jamal Crawford of the Los Angeles Clippers and San Antonio's legendary sixth manManu Ginobili.
Phoenix's unfairly overlooked Markieff Morris and Dallas' venerable Vince Carter are two more worthy names that deserve more pub than they're getting. Oklahoma City's Reggie Jackson's is in the mix, too.
But Gibson's impact at both ends puts him narrowly ahead of Crawford (who ranks among the league's top five in fourth-quarter scoring despite being derailed late in the season by a strained calf) and Ginobili (who's been getting some bench help of his own from Marco Belinelli and Patty Mills) ... though it must be noted that D.J. Augustin has given Chicago two eye-catchers off the bench.
Stein's ballot: 1. Taj Gibson; 2. Jamal Crawford; 3. Manu Ginobili
Last edited by N0 LyF3 ScRuB; 04-12-2014 at 04:44 PM.
Jamal Crawford has been really overrated, tbh..he shouldn't even be discussed in the top 3..
Gibson should win it, he's the best 2-way player and has played 79 games IIRC..
Manu has only played 1500 minutes and Mills has been nearly as good as him, tbh..
1. Gibson
2. Morris
Last edited by HarlemHeat37; 04-12-2014 at 04:46 PM.
Markeiff Morris is my #1 choice.
Manu, Gibson is in the Least conference it doesnt count and Jawal Cra is not even close to Manu what a joke...
Manu's not winning it. Morris likely will. Crawford's missed a lot of time with injuries as of late.
He should win it alone on the le of the award itself. He really was the 6th man of the year. Well, last year.
Hey Buttercup, don't remember your boys being all that great last year. The only year you made it to the Finals didn't turn out ll that swell either. Did y'all make it to a game 6?
no.
Sixth Man is really just a scoring (chucking) award, so it should go to Jamal unless east-coast bias comes into play again like last year (lol JR Brick)....
He's clearly the leader and best player on the best bench in the NBA, but his limited minutes obviously play against him, and it would be a repeat award...
Taj, Morris or Jamal would be worthy winners, tbh... I don't think any of those winning would be a slight on Manu...
Methlahoma Mitch with the goods
Manu Ginobili is clearly a Hall-of-Famer already regardless of some repeat 6th man award. His European experience stacked with an Olympic gold from a non-American is a huge deal. Oh yea, and hes a multi-time all-star and (at least) a 3-time NBA champion. I think hes good.
manu prob doesnt even want it
Zach Lowe thinks Manu is quite a player
"The Spurs with Manu are basically the 1996 Bulls, but just a hair better."
But he did NOT vote for him for 6th man
Great stuff. Lowe really wants to give it to Manu but kind of chickened out I guess:Zach Lowe thinks Manu is quite a player
"The Spurs with Manu are basically the 1996 Bulls, but just a hair better."
But he did NOT vote for him for 6th man
Ginobili has logged just 1,506 minutes, 500 fewer than Crawford, in 66 games. But Ginobili has been so good as to require an adjustment in the weights for each criterion. He has the highest PER among all candidates, and his per-minute numbers are in line with his Hall of Fame prime: 20 points, 7 assists, 5 rebounds, and 1.6 steals per 36 minutes. Yowza.
The Spurs are always great, but they transform into a super-team whenever Ginobili takes the floor. San Antonio has outscored opponents by five points per 100 possessions with Ginobili on the pine, and an unthinkable 13.4 points per 100 possessions when he plays. The Spurs with Manu are basically the 1996 Bulls, but just a hair better. He would have logged at least 100 or 200 more minutes had the Spurs not been blowing teams away so badly.
It’s tempting to chalk all this up to San Antonio’s overall depth rather than to Ginobili, but Manu is the engine. Pick your favorite key San Antonio reserve — Boris Diaw, Patty Mills, Marco Belinelli — and you’ll find they shoot loads better with Ginobili on the floor. The reverse doesn’t really apply, either.
San Antonio relies on constant motion, smart passing, and all of its players being able to make reads in the moment. Ginobili is an injection of all that makes the Spurs go, with a special dose of unpredictability every team needs to keep opponents anxious. He remains a rugged and smart defender, always underrated on that end. Crawford has tried hard and picked up some aspects of Doc Rivers’s scheme, but he remains a glaring defensive liability.
Ginobili getting some love:
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...n-of-the-year/
Though none of us have a ballot for the NBA’s official awards, we’ll be presenting our choices and making our cases this week for each major honor.Kurt Helin
1. Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs
2. Jamal Crawford, Los Angeles Clippers
3. Taj Gibson, Chicago Bulls
When Manu Ginobili enters the game the Spurs offense instantly improves by 7.9 points per 100 possessions (and their defense improves by one per 100). The Spurs outscore opponents by 14 points per game when he plays and they don’t have the best record in the NBA without him. He’s got my vote. The instant offense of Jamal Crawford and the fourth quarter exploits of Taj Gibson get them on the ballot just ahead of Markieff Morris.
Brett Pollakoff
1. Jamal Crawford, Los Angeles Clippers
2. Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs
3. Markieff Morris, Phoenix Suns
I broke this race down in detail a couple of weeks back, and nothing’s changed since then that would alter my hypothetical cote. I like what Markieff Morris has done for Phoenix, and Manu Ginobili has been extremely solid for a Spurs team with the league’s best record. But with the scoring Jamal Crawford does for a very good Clippers team, it’s tough to envision a scenario where this award isn’t his.
Dan Feldman
1. Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs
2. Jamal Crawford, Los Angeles Clippers
3. Taj Gibson, Chicago Bulls
I created my rankings before seeing Kurt’s, but not only did we agree on our top three, he nailed the explanation for Ginobili at No. 1. The Spurs guard is just a whiz who elevates his team with all his trickery. Crawford gets the slightest edge over Gibson for his ability to handle a big offensive burden when necessary and because, when working with the Clippers’ starters, his defense becomes tolerable.
Really looks like it's going down between Crawford, Gibson and Ginobili
http://espn.go.com/nba/notebook/_/pa...sixth-man-year
12 votes for Crawford
8 votes for Gibson
7 votes for Ginobili
Last edited by N0 LyF3 ScRuB; 04-17-2014 at 01:44 PM.
Manu still had a great year even to my surprise but I agree with those that his limited minutes will be what keeps him from contending against the other top 2 canedits for the 6th
I doubt it. Honestly would be surprised.
Gibson thinks Ginobili deserves it
Backup big man Taj Gibson smiled at the possibility he would bring the Bulls their second individual honor this month.And then he explained why he probably won’t win the Sixth Man of the Year award when it’s announced in the next 10 days or so. Center Joakim Noah was named defensive player of the year Monday.
“It would be great,” Gibson said Tuesday before Game 2 against the Wizards. “I don’t even think I’m going to win it, to tell you the truth.”
Maybe he was simply being gracious, but Gibson proceeded to list the two other big-time candidates for the award. In fact, both guards are previous winners.
“I like [the Spurs’ Manu] Ginobili, and I like [the Clippers’ Jamal] Crawford,” Gibson said.
Playing for the team with the best record in the regular season, Ginobili averaged 12.3 points, 4.3 assists and three rebounds in only 22.8 minutes. He came off the bench in all but three games.
Crawford started 24 times and averaged 18.6 points, 3.2 assists and 2.3 rebounds.
“Just to be put in the same talk with them is good,” Gibson said. “I’m just more focused on the playoffs.”
Gibson has a strong case to become the first Bull to win the award since Ben Gordon nine years ago.
During a season in which his team appeared rudderless at times, he played in every game but started only eight times. He averaged a career-high 13 points in a career-best 28.7 minutes.
Coach Tom Thibodeau was hopeful Gibson would win the award.
“I think he’s had a terrific season,” Thibodeau said.
If Gibson has won it, they should hurry up and announce it before the Bulls are out of the playoffs.
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