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    A very interesting article

    http://www.sonicsrising.com/2014/7/2...tle-louisville

    Bullet points

    - The NBA could be expanding (but not officially) to expand to Louisville and Seattle in the near future. The time to do so would be the during the next TV contract. It seems somewhat of a long shot but they mention several "pieces of evidence" to support it.

    -The NBA could be seeking a $2 Billion dollar deal from broadcasting partners and could potentially add another TV Partner (possibly Fox)

    -Salary cap could sky rocket for the 2016-2017 season (reportedly as high as $80 million)


    [http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/7/1...ers-two-years]

    -The NBA is currently making $930 million per season off the current TV deal it could jump to $2 billion per season. $16 billion over an 8 year contract.

    -A business owner from Kentucky is a close friend of David Stern and has been working for more than a decade to get an expansion team in Louisville and potentially rename them the Kentucky Colonels (from the ABA).

    -The Sonics could also be revived as part of the new TV deal pushing the NBA to 32 teams.




    the potential skyrocketing cap would definitely help the Spurs in the retooling efforts post Duncan and Ginobili.

    Leonard's 5 year max salary would be would be $19.1 million for the '16-'17 season. The Spurs have would have $38.6 million committed to Anderson, Mills, Diaw (not guaranteed), Leonard, and Splitter.

    If the Spurs were to extend Parker, the Spurs would have $53 million to 6 players not including Green and Belinelli.

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    The best thing about adding more teams is the possibility of the league becoming more compe ive with more places with money to go to. It could be pretty interesting.

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    These pie in the sky projections always make me laugh. What is going to happen to the TV rights deal when GFC II hits sometime in the next 2 to 3 years? For those who aren't aware that this is inevitable, you should read some economic history (serious downturns occur every 7 to 10 years), and take a look at the facts surrounding GFC I and the regulatory holes which were not addressed.

    Most of the world's growth since GFC I has been due to money printing by the US and Japanese governments. The world is at an economic crossroads but very few people realise it. GFC II will probably force the issue... and when that happens, people will stop spending money on luxuries - bye bye massive increase in TV deal!

    Expansion is a nonsense idea until the global economy is on a sure footing, which it certainly isn't at the moment. I guess the NBA just better hope that GFC II happens a year after they sign their TV deal!

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    There isn't enough talent for 32 teams. More teams with cash to spend and higher salary cap == slightly above average players getting 15 mil per season bull that we're already seeing. 26 teams is about right for the NBA.

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    ..Please no more teams.

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    How about shrink the league by removing a few teams like the Kings, Bucks, Magic, Jazz & Twolves.

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    In favor of expansion. Would make more sense, and there's plenty of talent to go around. Expansion would lower the cap, however.

    Leonard's 2016-2017 salary will be based on his 2015-2016 salary. The only time his cap determines his pay is the first year of the deal. Also, the cap is based on the revenue for the previous season. A 2016-2017 TV deal won't affect the cap until at least 2017-2018.

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    The best thing about adding more teams is the possibility of the league becoming more compe ive with more places with money to go to. It could be pretty interesting.
    Add more teams=> more teams will suck=> league less compe ive

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    TBH I was always hoping the NBA would cut some teams out, but that's just me...

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    Who cares about David Stern's friend? David Stern is no longer commissioner!!!

    I'm squarely in the anti-expansion camp, and for one reason: 32 teams means 8 4-team divisions instead of 6 5-team divisions. Why is that important? Because they would probably auto-seed the division winners, no matter how sad, into the top 4 playoff slots, and someone would get screwed like we did in 2006 after that re-alignment.

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    NBA is already stretched past beyond available talent, too many teams, too little coaching/playing/mgmt talent, too many games (B2B crap), 75% of the games are ty, meaningless.

    Playoffs should be top 16 records, not best 8 of each conference.

    Owners pushing their business interests, not the fans' or players' or game's interest.

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    Who cares about David Stern's friend? David Stern is no longer commissioner!!!

    I'm squarely in the anti-expansion camp, and for one reason: 32 teams means 8 4-team divisions instead of 6 5-team divisions. Why is that important? Because they would probably auto-seed the division winners, no matter how sad, into the top 4 playoff slots, and someone would get screwed like we did in 2006 after that re-alignment.
    Or (more likely) it means 4 8 team divisions...

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    More money but less talent, immigration of international players hid it for a while, but 2 more timberwolves? NO

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    No more expansion teams, good Lord...

    NBA should trim the fat and lose the Bucks and Raptors and TWolves. Consider relocating to gone franchises in San Diego, Louisville, St Louis, Seattle but please no more fledgling teams. The league sucks as it is.

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    No more expansion teams, good Lord...

    NBA should trim the fat and lose the Bucks and Raptors and TWolves. Consider relocating to gone franchises in San Diego, Louisville, St Louis, Seattle but please no more fledgling teams. The league sucks as it is.

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    No more expansion teams, good Lord...

    NBA should trim the fat and lose the Bucks and Raptors and TWolves. Consider relocating to gone franchises in San Diego, Louisville, St Louis, Seattle but please no more fledgling teams. The league sucks as it is.
    Toronto has a gowing die hard fan base and could be a top 4 seed this season. The Kings would be a better candidate.

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    What about penalties for teams that sucks for many years. When was the last time Kings were in playoffs ? 2002?

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    no to expansion, we already have enough ty teams no one cares about, do we really need two more? Seattle should have voted for a new arena tbh

    Besides, Silver already came out and said the NBA has no plans for an expansion and no teams are considering relocation

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    What about penalties for teams that sucks for many years. When was the last time Kings were in playoffs ? 2002?
    2006 vs. Spurs iirc.

    Nick Van Exel

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the last expansion each team could only protect a certain number of their players from losing them to the expansion franchises.
    This would hurt teams like the Spurs who depend on team ball.
    I would only be in favor of it if this part were changed.

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    Expansion would be fantastic. If you think there's not enough talent, you're probably the kind of dip who loves Bonner/Ayers on the team while stashers sit overseas.

    Also division leaders make the top 4 seeds doesn't matter if you're team good enough to win the division. If you're a fan of a bubble team who needs to rely on drawing up playoff entry conditions to get in the playoffs. You should focus more on why your team is inferior than rules for redrawing district lines like a dad gum weak ass US congressman.

    Finally, GFC II and expansion teams would affect the cap are good points. But on the issue of a Global Financial Crisis hitting and affecting the planned payday. What is the league suppose to do? Would you rather it plan pessimistically? Just expect a similar deal and nothing to change? Growth of the league through expansion into basketball loving cities like Louisville and Seatle just aren't imaginable? And even if they are, the Twolves, Kings, Bucks and any terrible team can never be good, so they should just move and maintain the league status quo? How about being optimistic about plans for the beautiful growth of the league? maybe the league wants a Mexico City or London team? Couldn't that be awesome, if meticulous plans are made for fatigue and any other possible problems? And expansion keeps the cap from growing dramatically in one offseason? Maybe that's part of the leagues plan to maintain the salary cap status quo increase? Is it still safe to be excited about the amount cap space the spurs might be looking at?

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the last expansion each team could only protect a certain number of their players from losing them to the expansion franchises.
    This would hurt teams like the Spurs who depend on team ball.
    I would only be in favor of it if this part were changed.
    I think that was for when roster limits were 13, I'd think they would make it 9 players. It was 8 players that could be protected in '04.

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    Previous expansion years had teams protecting only 8 players, so yes, that would hurt the Spurs if it were to happen this year, but with Duncan and Manu surely retiring before this propsed expansion happens, the Spurs would probably be able to protect the guys they really want to hold on to. (Leonard, Parker, Green, Splitter, Mills, Baynes, Duncan & Manu replacements via free agency, etc.)

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    The NBa needs to develop their player development program. if they are intent on drafting HS kids or kids one year removed then they need an environment where they can prepare those them. As it is now players basic skills in ball handling, passing and shooting are piss poor. Adding another 30 players from the bottom of the deck will only make matters worse.

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    Kentucky Colonels... Sterling would be a shoo in.

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