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They were but then Phil and Pippen came along.
There, I said it
They were but then Phil and Pippen came along.
feel better?
thinking MJ is gonna pass the ball
Don't forget MVPippen
Dad Killer = Bird's PERIOD
Is that what you asked your wife after Lemarcus left ?
oh noes.
Good thread. Will put on instagram
He did average over 8 assists one year and that is good for a SG..... Just saying.
As long as Kirby doesn't ring.
He played PG that season, not SG
And he didnt like it
He averaged 8 and 8 correct? 8 Boards and 8 Assists? That is good for a PG wouldn't you say? 8 Boards a game and over 30PPG, impressive no matter how you stack it up.
He replaced someone injured, he did not play the PG the whole year Lefty. He did do it quite a few games but not the whole year.
http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/0...10-of-11-games
He was very impressive at the PG position.
Last edited by Sean Cagney; 11-07-2014 at 04:06 PM.
but you said "Pretty good for a SG"
but anyway Jordan was so ball dominant before KFC took over; he was going to get his points, and when the defense collapsed on him, he HAD to pass the ball, so he was going to get his assists to.
Kobe forgot to write this down on a post-it note, evidently.
Lefty with the bads again. Terribads.
Malik Hairston
And Cry Havoc, are you still mad bout the Enrique truth nukes we dropped upstairs?
People always get this idea that Jordan could do no wrong, and I disagree.
He's a very difficult player to build around, and required a special makeup of a team to win those 6 championships. Look at those two three peat teams, they were pretty much a carbon copy of each other, and it required Phil Jackson, one of the best in stroking egos, to make that work.
We all know Jordan needs someone like a Pippen to win, because he would need another guy who can defend the perimeter and orchestrate the offense, but he also requires a couple of dead eye outside shooters (BJ Armstrong, Paxson, Kerr), a rugged rebounder and interior defender (Grant/Rodman), and a bunch of interchangeable centers who can pass and shoot from 15 (Cartwright, Perdue, Longley). This was an unorthodox lineup, and while none of them are superstar level players (other than Pippen), they all compliment Jordan and made up for his weaknesses.
On the other hand, a player like Bird (82 vs. 86), Magic (80 vs. 87 and 88), and Kareem (71 vs. 85) can all contribute in a different way to a team playing a different role, with a different group of slightly different makeup of a team to win a championship.
It depends what you mean by a better player, but Jordan is not really as good and easy to win a championship with as people make him out to be.
Wut weaknesses?
Well that was the formula for a 72-10 team. In terms of the Post, they were extremely bare. It was essentially Rodman (Greatest Rebounder Ever) and Kukoc as the versatile 6 '11' guy. Rodman was really the big domino because without him you have to significantly alter the formula.
In that formula you essentially tell Jordan to focus his energy on taking care of all the scoring inside the perimeter. I mean all of it. It's hard to ignore the clutch factor. You could find other SGs like Mitch Richmond to shoulder the scoring for 3.5 Quarters but in the end of games? Knowing MJ had this taken are of, allowed the Bulls to focus on Defense and play with an extremely thin margin. They didn't humiliate opponents in the same manner as Shaq/Kobe but they were consistently better.
So we are basically debating how does the formula change if you give Jordan a Dwight Howard & Irving. While taking away Rodman & Pippen. Or maybe to better fit the talent disparity, give Jordan a Kidd/Nash and Robinson/Ewing
PG: Irving or Kidd/Nash
SG: Jordan
SF: ?
PF: ?
C: Howard or Robinson/Ewing
Isn't it easier to find quality Forwards than Centers or Point Guards? Which SF & PF would be the equivalent of Luc Longley & Ron Harper
No MJ wasnt perfect and Lebron absolutely had a chance to surpass him. Maybe he is not as easy to build around as a great big but even the great bigs needed good (great) coaches and most of the time (except Dream and Timmy for a season)a HOF #2 and elite perimeter play.
Claiming truth nukes about your own post is just an admission that you're a -tier level poster with absolutely no hoops knowledge.
Yes but on top of all of that he was a winner as well, so it is not like he was a detriment to the team. He got his rings.
BTW he was a SG most of that year he averaged 8 besides 11 games or so, so that would make him a SG.
i had to
Im not the only one who dropped truth nukes upstairs
So no Im not claiming truth nukes about my own posts only
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