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    Believe. Calispursfan11's Avatar
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    Despite good scoring and decent numbers overall, he's not looking like he has the past few seasons. I don't think this is a chemistry issue at all. Let's face it, no one can fend off father time and Lebron is not a young man anymore. He reminds me of Dwyane Wade a season before he fell of a cliff physically and statistically, like that last really good but not great season before a steep dive for the next few years.

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    Nope. But it can be argued that the peak of his prime is over. Those were played in Miami

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    no. It's the beginning of November. He's been in 4 straight Finals. He's a climber, not a sprinter. You'll see.

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    No Hgh connection in Cleveland right now.

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    Believe. Calispursfan11's Avatar
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    Nope. But it can be argued that the peak of his prime is over. Those were played in Miami
    So how far below the peak of his prime now IYHO.

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    Losing weight is suppose to help lengthen his career..less wear and tear on them knees..we have a small sample size about how his game has been impacted with the loss..he isn't the same..as to the question, no, he is not..

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    Yeah and thats not gonna turn on Gay Ray.

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    By "past his prime", you mean he's not using Hgh anymore? I agree.

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    So how far below the peak of his prime now IYHO.
    He isn't as strong defensively. Offensively he added range and his vision is still the same

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    Kyrie and K Love arguably drop his numbers a little bit but not much if he's still at last year's level; there's something else missing right now. We'll see in a month or two I suppose.

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    It's one thing to talk a player during a rivalry, but to just make stupid remarks out of sheer ignorant hate is quite another. He's the best player in the game, and number 2 isn't even close.

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    gordon hayward just took his cookie

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    Yeah and thats not gonna turn on Gay Ray.
    He will be a Cav imo. He plays with Bron and they need him

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    By "past his prime", you mean he's not using Hgh anymore? I agree.
    I know that's been speculated but you don't see the radical jaw transformation with Lebron as we did Wade, so the evidence is not AS compelling.

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    LeBron is also struggling because he's trying to play in a system that promotes ball movement..the bad thing is the team has ball stoppers that either look for their own shot or do not know how to play without the ball..

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    Overreaction thread is an overreaction.

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    Believe. Calispursfan11's Avatar
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    LeBron is also struggling because he's trying to play in a system that promotes ball movement..the bad thing is the team has ball stoppers that either look for their own shot or do not know how to play without the ball..
    Good point tbh. I pretty much agree.

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    He never had a killer crossover or anything, he just plowed people over with his athleticism. I saw a clip of him earlier where he couldn't take Trevor Booker off the dribble

    And then you have this https://t.co/TDKwTOIMkN

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    MORE LIFE SOON COME 313's Avatar
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    Found the Trevor Booker clip. He actually travels too https://t.co/h0vBumN4A1

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    gordon hayward just took his cookie
    I saw that. Looked like an ankle breaker. Hayward is legit.

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    overreaction


    i was surprised though when he couldn't bully gordon hayward in the post. that was concerning.

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    - Too early to say, small sample size

    - He's playing in a much different system, it took years to build perfection in Miami

    - It's concerning that he lost weight and wants to play on the perimeter more, since he no longer has the explosiveness to rely entirely on the outside game..he transitioned into an inside-outside game with the Heat, which negated any loss of athleticism/explosiveness..if he's going to attempt to base his entire game from the attack from outside, it's not going to work, he doesn't have the speed/athleticism anymore..

    - People don't realize how much he carried the Heat for 4 years..He played both the Jordan and Pippen role for them, it's possible that it has taken a toll on his body..

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    I saw that. Looked like an ankle breaker. Hayward is legit.
    ty takes abound

    This will be a bumpable thread in a very short amount of time.

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    - Too early to say, small sample size

    - He's playing in a much different system, it took years to build perfection in Miami

    - It's concerning that he lost weight and wants to play on the perimeter more, since he no longer has the explosiveness to rely entirely on the outside game

    - People don't realize how much he carried the Heat for 4 years..He played both the Jordan and Pippen role for them, it's possible that it has taken a toll on his body..
    What does Lebron weigh at this point.

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    I saw that. Looked like an ankle breaker. Hayward is legit.
    i like hayward, he's a good player, but the jazz aren't going anywhere with him as their franchise guy.

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