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eat dirt shaq
if they gave it to shaq
it would have been east coast biased junk and wade is the mvp of the heat anyhow
it does help that fat boy lost 60 pounds sence joining the heat
According to the AZ Republic.
The NBA traditionally announces the winner of
the MVP award on their team's off day. The
award was supposed to be handed out on a
Monday, but late yesterday the NBA moved it
to Sunday. The Miami Heat and Shaq have
a game on Sunday. The Phoenix Suns don't
play until Monday night against the winner of
the Mavs-Rockets series. The race came
down to a close one between Shaq and Nash,
but it now appears that for the 6-3 Canadian,
this is a done deal
eat dirt shaq
if they gave it to shaq
it would have been east coast biased junk and wade is the mvp of the heat anyhow
it does help that fat boy lost 60 pounds sence joining the heat
I don't think he deserved to win it over a Shaq or a Duncan. To me Amare is just as valuable to that team if not more.
All signs point to Nash winning NBA's MVP
Paul Coro
The Arizona Republic
May. 6, 2005 12:00 AM
Steve Nash and the MVP trophy apparently have a date.
The NBA announced Thursday that the announcement of the Most Valuable Player, the NBA's 50th, will be Sunday. That could mean the Suns point guard has won a tight race with Miami center Shaquille O'Neal.
Here's why: The NBA announced the previous five MVPs when the winning players were idle, and on a day before each had a playoff game.
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The Suns are expected to start their second-round series Monday. Miami is slotted for a Sunday start to its second-round series if Washington closes its series with Chicago today.
If O'Neal is playing in Sunday's ABC game, it seems unlikely he would be the subject of the MVP halftime interview that ABC is promoting.
The last MVP to not receive the award a day before a playoff game was Utah's Karl Malone in 1999, when the Jazz were already eliminated.
An Arizona Republic survey of 106 of the 127 MVP voters showed Nash with an 895-883 lead over O'Neal in total points. Nash received 53 first-place votes to O'Neal's 51. Phoenix's Amaré Stoudemire and San Antonio's Tim Duncan received the other two
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns...nsmvp0506.html
Don't be fooled. Nash makes that team run. Most of Amare's points come off of a set from Nash.
Duncan didn't deserve it this year. If for no other reason, because he missed 1/4 the season.
to me wade is more valuable to heat then shaq
how many times has the mvp of the regular season won the le that year also
Shaq makes them elite on offense and is a bigger presense on defense than Wade. Wade is their best fourth quarter player, but Shaq is clearly more valuable to the team.
Amare was there last year and they didn't win s*it. Nash turned the team around and deserves the award.
The flip side to that coin is that Steve Nash also needs guys who can FINISH and run the break. In a more half court oriented attack I doubt Nash would be putting up the John Stockton type numbers he is now, and he certainly would not do it with mediocre talent around him and also WIN games.
Nash has been about as effective as John Stockton had been for his team for over a decade (without the defense).
Nash deserves credit for turning that Suns team around, but not ALL the credit. Amare Stoudamire is still an elite player in this league, and Shawn Marion as a third gun is not that far behind.
Shaq should've got it, IMO. Nash has Amare, Marion, Johnson, & Richardson...Shaq has Wade. Does Amare+Marion+Johnson+Richardson = Wade?
Also take into consideration...Nash is a great offensive player, but what does he do on defense? Shaq holds both end of the court.
Amare was also injured for a solid portion of the season. He also did not even have a mediocre point guard, let alone a starting quality one for an entire season.
Not to mention that Amare is actually a much better player this year. Think that a player of his calibur would not have improved at all if Nash did not come?
who...cares, the spurs got bigger goals.
if you do nto care why open the thread
Despite all that, I still like AI as the MVP.
Nash is a beneficiary of the situation (and his defense sucks), Shaq has been inconsistent throughout the year, Duncan's been hurt, and is, arguably, having his worst season in 5 or so years (at least individually), and Amare doesn't create or defend
The only other player that I would consider is Wade, but AI does the job better with less around him. Both these players defines their respective teams, and the teams are clearly built around them.
BTW, Amare reminds of a young Elvin Hayes.
suns d is a little underrated they can turn it on some in 4
The Heat and the Suns; two teams who were nowhere near le contention last year, but both now are.
The reasons: Steve Nash and Shaquille O'Neal.
Nash was added to roster LOADED with talent - signed as a free agent, and none of that talent was lost. He played along 2 OTHER ALL-STARS, as well as two other players he had a part in all-star weekend.
The Heat traded a considerable amount of talent to acquire O'Neal - we wasn't simply an addition. Consider the lineups w/o the other on each squad & there is simply no comparison. After Shaq and Wade there is a considerable drop-off; after Nash & Amare, you have Matrix (who puts up MVP numbers his own self - and who I feel might be the most valuable of the 3, actually playing defense.)
1 dimensional players shouldn't win MVP, IMO; it's why Ice never did; why is everybody on Nash's damn jock? Phoenix goes down in rd. 2 and that's that.
So, if the Heat lose to the Pistons in Round 3, then Shaq wouldn't deserve it either?
It's real simple folks. How many games did the Suns win without Nash (when he was injured).
How did the Heat do without Shaq?
Nash deserves MVP.
since when has the playoffs got to do with the MVP? and for the record, the suns will not lose in round two. They won 62 games for a reason. they are that damn good.
Off topic, but what is the Suns record versus the Mavs and Rockets?
All I know is Nash shoud NOT BE NAMED MVP. If they do, it will render the award meaningless. Never in NBA history has a player who pathologically refuses to play defense been called the "most valuable player."
I call bull . Shaq should be the MVP. Without him, the Heat don't get out of the East as the champs. Wade and Amare are both more deserving than Nash. Marion and Duncan and Manu are more deserving than Nash. Nowitzki is more deserving than Nash.
???
The Suns would probably not even make it out of the first round without Nash! (that if they made the playoffs at all)!
They certainly wouldn't be Number frickin' ONE in the NBA!
No one on the Spurs can be MVP, because EVERYONE is important. Tim, Manu and Tony all are the MVPs of the Spurs. How could you pick just one?
Wade COULD be MVP, but the fact he didn't do last year gives props to Shaq. But Shaq can't be MVP because the Heat did fine when he was injured.
The only other reasonable MVP would be with the Pistons, but they have the same "problem" the Spurs have - not just one player is important. (A problem many teams wish they had).
Nash is the best player on the Number one team. It's that simple.
Nash is the PHX Suns. Without him, they are dog .
Manu? LMAO
you are an idiot
The Suns went 2-5 in their first 7 games without Nash. The Spurs went 2-5 in their first 7 games without Duncan, didn't they? How is that one stat used to make Nash the MVP?
Sorry, I've seen this show before when he was up here in Dallas. Mavs '03 > Suns '05.
Remember back in 1999 when Karl Malone won the MVP honors, but the Spurs won the
championship? Well I see that happening this year again. Steve Nash won the MVP honors but won't have the NBA trophy...Go Spurs Go.
Think back to that commercial that the Spurs were showing.
They all started with a guitar in the back ground...
Then they showed Karl Malone in slow motion...then the screen read: "Karl Malone...1999 MVP....congratulations....see you in the Finals....Need tickets?"
They were mocking him for not advancing to the Finals.
I still see it happening to Phoenix...
That was GOLDEN! Remember?
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