He's more than that and if he gets 6 and finally goes back to back I'd put him up against anyone. Consider the market, he does it in both sides of the ball he's been clutch always improves in the playoffs and the age he's doing it is amazing!!!
I've been thinking the same recently, as well.
6 les puts him in the talk of GOAT, period.
No player has had the level of success Duncan has had ALREADY. Never missed the playoffs and never under 50 wins (aside from lockout season).
Sustained superior performance.... 6 les will definitely put him as BEST BIG MAN EVER, at a minimum. What other player would be able to record double doubles against the "elite" centers in today's game other than Timmy?
I think at this point Tm is one of the 5 greatest players of all time. Winning a sixth le should put him up there with Jordan and Bill Russell.
win a 6th or not i hope he comes back for another year. Hes still playing at a high level and can continue to move up the ranks statistically.
It actually won't move him much. People will remember this as kawhi's team or Parkers team. To compare, think about Kobe. His 5 les are discounted because of role player status.
It will however help Pop. And it makes Duncan more memorable as an all time great to mention that he won well past his 30th birthday. But it won't move him past anyone he currently isn't already ahead of.
But to this day when we need him he takes over. Against Houston danny and tony were MIA so he goes for 29 against that front line. You could've given him FMVP ;ast year and without 6 he certainly would've been in '13. At his age it's unheard of.
If he wins a 6th le while playing at this level all playoffs, it gives him an argument for top 3 IMO. He's already solidified his place top 5.
Nobody discounts Kobe's rings, nor do they discount Duncan's impact, not sure what the you're talking about, tbh..
Top 3. Upsetting to know he could and should have at least one more. He's been absolutely amazing and a true "blessing" to Spurs fans.
Best big man?? What about Kareem?
Realistically, a sixth le just cements his top 5 legacy. I've already got him somewhere in the range of 4-6, which I think is reasonable. A late-career DPOY would help the case too.
Yeah I don't think #6 would do much for Duncan's legacy. At least not as much as #5 did. #5 was needed so Duncan's career ends at a high note, especially after 6. Unless Duncan wins FMVP this year (highly unlikely), the credit will be split among the big 3, Leonard, and Pop.
Nobody? You've never in your entire life heard a single person say that Kobe's first three rings came with Shaq and therefore aren't as impressive as Jordan's? Whether it's true or not is open for discussion, but to make the claim that nobody ever discounted some of Kobe's rings is just plain wrong. Lots of people use that argument.Nobody discounts Kobe's rings, nor do they discount Duncan's impact, not sure what the you're talking about, tbh
I discount a couple of his rings.Nobody discounts Kobe's rings, nor do they discount Duncan's impact, not sure what the you're talking about, tbh
I also have asterisks by two.
And I give him half credit for 1.
By most important accomplishments, Tim is the 3rd greatest of all time:
Jordan and Jabbar ahead, tied with Magic.
Duncan is definitely adding longevity to his legacy in a way that only Kareem had previously. Olajuwan, Shaq, and others were completely done at age 38, and many other all time greats called it quits long before then. If Tim signs on for one more year, he could potentially have the most impactful season by a 40 year old ever.
He is my #1 basketball player of all time ... thats all that counts
Only fans use that argument..if he was referring to fans, then it's even more false, as Duncan is one of the most popular and highly ranked players on NBA forums like RealGm..
The media virtually never discounts Kobe's rings, nor do former players, as they generally blindly use ring count as a go-to arguing point.
Everything's going really well right now, but the Spurs are a long ing way from repeating. Hoping someone bumps this thread if and when they do.
really tough to repeat with a 70% Splitter tbh
but you can always dream
So you have NEVER heard a single sportscaster or former player in your entire life say that Kobe's rings weren't as impressive as Michael's because Kobe was the #2 guy for three of them? Never? I think you're being disingenuous.
Let's just put it this way -- those with the loudest voices on these sorts of no-winner topics are never going to put Tim ahead of Russell, Kareem, Magic, Bird, and Jordan.
When Lebron's days are coming to a close, I suspect the discussion will be about where he ranks in a group of 6 that includes those 5 players and himself. There's virtually nothing that Tim Duncan can do that will change that. Tim will be an afterthought in that discussion; if anyone else is included in it, it will be Kobe, not Timmy. It's ridiculous, but that's the way it is and is the way it almost certainly will be.
I find your POV very interesting, and I think that will be true. However, let's say for a moment Timmy retires with 7 rings. Would that be true regardless of the rings?
Even with a sixth ring, Tim has no case over Kareem or Jordan. Russell and Wilt are difficult to rank because of the era they played in, I wouldn't argue with anyone putting them over Timmy although it's not a no-brainer, especially for Wilt.
Timmy has moved from the Shaq/Kobe tier up to the Magic/Bird tier IMO.
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