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You are aware of the major economic crisis going on in the ME over the past decade? They had a baby boom and none of them can get jobs. Perhaps you heard about the series of revolutions recently?
aren't they awash with money? plus aren't they neighbors?
why do the Syrians go to Europe when excellent countries like Saudi and Gulf states have the economic means to help them?
why doesn't the US and Germany call up on them to contribute?
You are aware of the major economic crisis going on in the ME over the past decade? They had a baby boom and none of them can get jobs. Perhaps you heard about the series of revolutions recently?
It's a valid point. The neighboring states such as Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, and Turkey (notice how Israel isn't listed) have taken millions of refugees despite being ill equipped to do so. Meanwhile, the rich oil gulf states offer no assistance whatsoever. Although to be fair, who would want to live in Saudi Arabia? Not much of an upgrade from Syria, especially if you're a woman.
This is Jordan's largest refugee camp, which would qualify as its 5th largest city.
Lots of reasons.
Most of the refugees tend to be shia, and to a lesser extent, christian.
The Saudis are really, really racist, and really distrustful of shia, considering them apostates, and potential Iranian agents. (Iran = shia, Saudis = sunni)
The other really rich gulf states are tiny, and have few housing and infrastructure resources for large population influxes.
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/ar...aths-685522901
I think they will come under some pressure to do more, as they should.
wrong. most of the Syrian refugees are Sunni
try again
the houses of Saud only care about 2 things. Money and Power. Since the Syrian refugees bring neither to the table, they are not even considered.
just remember the good ol US of A picked these houses to be their strongest allies (remember Obama and Bush bowing to the Saud kings)
and ppl ask why the Middle East is so ed upwe engineered it that way
Syria is soaked in blood. Oil prices internationally are falling. And a new U.S.-led nuclear deal with Iran is forcing most of America’s greatest friends in the Middle East to choose between alienating their longtime patron and unshackling a despised Islamic Republic they see as the source of their regional problems.
Amid this uncertainty, traditional U.S. partners in the region are beginning to feel American retrenchment and are turning to a key U.S. rival for steady international support. Among them is the principal regional ally, Saudi Arabia, whose monarch’s meeting in the Oval Office on Friday will likely determine the extent of future cooperation.
“This visit could potentially be a turning point in Saudi-U.S. relations,” says Fahad Nazer, a former political analyst at the Saudi Embassy in Washington.
The visit comes as the Saudi government has made notable overtures toward Moscow in recent months. Officials in the kingdom announced in July a plan to invest roughly $10 billion in Russia as a part of an investment fund – a curious if not shrewd scheme to capitalize on Russia’s economic slowdown amid a downturn in oil prices, as well as European and U.S. sanctions designed to cripple its economy as punishment for meddling in Ukraine.
big meeting coming up this Friday between Obama and the new Saud King.
Looks like Saudi is already threatening to go pander to Russia and leave the US in the dust if Obama and co don't change the tune on Iran and Syria.
they want their war. and they want Americans to fight it for them
those n!ggers I ain't fighting . Rather fight for the Russians tbh. Them Cozying up to Russia makes no sense..Russia fully supports both Syria and Iran
Saudi wants direct weapon sales from Russia.
DOn't be fooled. If they are going to dump Uncle Sam they will be armed to the teeth and pretty much Russia is the only other weapon salesman tbqh
any other day Russia would tell the Sauds to go e themselves. But thanks to Europe and Uncle Sam tightening the economic belt on Russia, they are basically forced to accept the Sauds unloading on their face
The fact that Western governments continue to handle Saudi Arabia with kid gloves is scandalous to say the least. Here is a country that is the fountainhead of Sunni terrorism, that has spent by some estimates 100 billion+ over the years to spread Wahhabi propaganda across Muslim and non-Muslim countries. The country that ideologically gave birth to Al Qaeda, ISIS and numerous terrorist organisations. There are wikileaks cables wherein the US government admits that Saudi Arabia is responsible for extremist Islam. 28 pages of the 9/11 Senate report were redacted without the knowledge or consent of the authoring Senator because they point to Saudi Arabia's role as financiers of the 9/11 attackers.
Americans should be holding their politicans' feet to the fire on why they continue to enable the biggest backer of Islamic terrorism. Instead they waste time on partisan nonsense like Obama's birth certificate, Benghazi, the Koch brothers and other assorted red herrings.
America broke the Middle East, so America should have been taking Iraqis (who helped the US military) and Afghanis (same), and should be taking 100Ks of the current refugee wave.
America broke it, but refuses to own it.
Now the storm of refugees from America's criminal, bungled wars are overrunning America's allies, and friends.
"Why Do They Hate Us?"
Don't forget that 14 of the 19 murderers were from Saudi Arabia...
Germany taking 800K refugees this year.
America, Christ Loving America, that caused the refugee crisis, taking how many?
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Which Democrat is pushing for 800k refugees and brought the issue to the political forefront?
None that I know of. So what?
Repugs broke the M/E, they should take the lead in owning the refugee disaster they created.
Agreed. The US should take their fair share of refugees. Germany has taken over 100k. We should be able to absorb at least 1-2 million considering the US is directly responsible for the Syrian civil war and continue to bomb the out of their civilian population centers with impunity, killing men women and children with our freedom bombs.
All is breaking loose over there right now. Kill them all
f that. Let them stay over there.
The ppl that are critizing the countries for not taking in immigrants are willing to host at least 1 immigrant family in their houses right?
Splits how is your application to receive a Syrian family going?
How about u boutons? How many Syrians are you receiving at your home?
Sure, I will be happy to admit my understanding of the demographics is a bit unclear, and probably should have made that explicit in my statement.
Do you have some news articles that show this? I would prefer my understanding be a bit better, since it seems important to the issue.
I am in the process of setting up a crowdsourcing thing to help out. I can't send funds directly, but there are some greeks who are feeding and sheltering a lot of people washing up on shore out of their own pocket who could use the help.
It seems important.
People who need help, need help. Worrying about the racial or religious background of someone drowning when considering to help them, makes you a wad, and arguably evil.
Is that what you are saying? "Can't have them here, because [racial/religious reason]"?
I would be willing to bet you could probably get Bernie on record as wanting to. He generally supports immigration, especially of people fleeing for their lives.
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsro...ugee-situation
I would further be willing to bet you could get Elizibeth Warren as well.
, since this is a basketball forum, let's see if we can find a basketball player's take on the differences between the parties:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...ernie-sanders/
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