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    In pursuit of cap space, Lakers unlikely to exercise option for Jordan Hill:

    As the Los Angeles Lakers maneuver to free $24 million-plus of salary cap space for summer free agency, the franchise is unlikely to exercise the option on forward Jordan Hill’s contract for the 2015-16 season, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

    The Lakers are not obligated to make a final determination on the $9 million owed on Hill’s contract before June 30, but momentum is strong that they’ll allow Hill to enter into free agency, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
    LINK: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources...163456728.html

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    Draft picks: #2, #27, #34
    2015-2016 Committed Salary: ~$27 million

    I expect them to decline Hill's $9M and pickup Clarkson/Black for about $2M.

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    Draft picks: #2, #27, #34
    2015-2016 Committed Salary: ~$27 million

    I expect them to decline Hill's $9M and pickup Clarkson/Black for about $2M.
    Your salary numbers do not appear to be accurate.

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    Your salary numbers do not appear to be accurate.
    Source: HoopsHype

    http://hoopshype.com/salaries/los_angeles_lakers/ They will let Wesley walk too.

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    Source: HoopsHype

    http://hoopshype.com/salaries/los_angeles_lakers/ They will let Wesley walk too.
    Kobe: 25M
    Nick: 5.2M
    Julius: 3.1M
    Ryan: 1.7M
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    Total Guaranteed (not including players with team options or player options): 35M - not 27M

    Then if they keep Clarkson (845K - likely), Hill (9M - unlikely), Sacre (900K) that number of committed salaries goes from 35M to 47M.

    I didn't even include Black (guaranteed money) or Blue (QO).

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    Bend over, I'll show ya our off-season

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    Kobe: 25M
    Nick: 5.2M
    Julius: 3.1M
    Ryan: 1.7M
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    Total Guaranteed (not including players with team options or player options): 35M - not 27M
    Good catch. I forgot all about Swaggy and Ryan .

    I hope they move Swaggy P. Ryan is a usable scrub though.

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    Good catch. I forgot all about Swaggy and Ryan .

    I hope they move Swaggy P. Ryan is a usable scrub though.
    Pfttttttt, spinning that sh*t! That was some sneaky Laker fan math trying to give the Lakers some cheat space. I see you playboy.

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    Pfttttttt, spinning that sh*t! That was some sneaky Laker fan math trying to give the Lakers some cheat space. I see you playboy.


    Those relatively small salaries + draft pick may net us something. Let's see if Mitch can dust off his old magic wand. Legend has it he once turned Kwame into 2 world les.

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    Those relatively small salaries + draft pick may net us something. Let's see if Mitch can dust off his old magic wand. Legend has it he once turned Kwame into 2 world les.
    he also traded for Dwight and Nash... gave Kobe 48.5 and PAID nick young

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    he also traded for Dwight and Nash... gave Kobe 48.5 and PAID nick young
    & that tore it.

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    Those relatively small salaries + draft pick may net us something. Let's see if Mitch can dust off his old magic wand. Legend has it he once turned Kwame into 2 world les.
    This is a defining year for the Laker franchise. They again have money to spend. Most recent signs point to a franchise in a pretty nasty downward spiral. Things that never used to happen (people turning down LA for less money) have happened enough to raise more than an eyebrow.

    If LA once again whiffs on the main FA's even when they have max money, it will be incredible. All of the questions about whether it's a slump or the new norm will be answered starting in 12 days.

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    he also traded for Dwight and Nash... gave Kobe 48.5 and PAID nick young
    I'm cool with picking up Dwert and Nash just like when they signed Mailman and GP. Mitch swung for the fences. The Lakers always did that. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.

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    This is a defining year for the Laker franchise. They again have money to spend. Most recent signs point to a franchise in a pretty nasty downward spiral. Things that never used to happen (people turning down LA for less money) have happened enough to raise more than an eyebrow.

    If LA once again whiffs on the main FA's even when they have max money, it will be incredible. All of the questions about whether it's a slump or the new norm will be answered starting in 12 days.
    Doesn't hold a candle to Duncan letting some guy with a story walk away with Tim's $25 million. Too bad this didn't happen when he could don Amy for 12.5 of it.

    Damn, if you hadn't short circuited that A/C unit you wouldn't even have your 2nd 5th, but James would have his 3rd. Hard to decide:::I don't know whether to or go blind.

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    This is a defining year for the Laker franchise. They again have money to spend. Most recent signs point to a franchise in a pretty nasty downward spiral. Things that never used to happen (people turning down LA for less money) have happened enough to raise more than an eyebrow.

    If LA once again whiffs on the main FA's even when they have max money, it will be incredible. All of the questions about whether it's a slump or the new norm will be answered starting in 12 days.
    Yeah, I'm interested to see how things shake out.

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    Doesn't hold a candle to Duncan letting some guy with a story walk away with Tim's $25 million. Too bad this didn't happen when he could don Amy for 12.5 of it.

    Damn, if you hadn't short circuited that A/C unit you wouldn't even have your 2nd 5th, but James would have his 3rd. Hard to decide:::I don't know whether to or go blind.
    game. Blouses.

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    This is a defining year for the Laker franchise. They again have money to spend. Most recent signs point to a franchise in a pretty nasty downward spiral. Things that never used to happen (people turning down LA for less money) have happened enough to raise more than an eyebrow.

    If LA once again whiffs on the main FA's even when they have max money, it will be incredible. All of the questions about whether it's a slump or the new norm will be answered starting in 12 days.
    Disagree. There is no Main free agent to get. Only you doomsday prognosticators are worried about this free agent class. I would not offer anyone in this class that is a UFA a max deal. I do think they should try and offer a max to Jimmy Butler but he is a RFA. None of the UFA's make sense for us. Marc wont come because we jerked around Pau and LMA makes sense for the spurs who are close to contention (and even still at a max deal that will be a mistake imho) not the Lakers, who are rebuilding. I would also consider Tobias Harris, Demarre Carroll but not at big money new max prices.

    Bottom line is the only thing that matters is the draft. This analysis by you is well below par and sounds like casual Laker fan or pure wishful hater think ... I expect better. I just hope our FO isnt thinking short term like you are. 2016 is the big year to judge our management, not 2015. Dont just throw money at B level or over 30 stars. say no to Dragic, rondo, LMA etc.

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    Yeah, I'm interested to see how things shake out.
    dont buy this he is selling there is no one out there that Lakers should pay max to ...
    Lakerfans need to strap in this draft is just step 2 in 3 step process. This FA year will not change the current course. And unlike DPG if the Lakers are smart and dont overpay that would be a better sign then if we cave to impatient fans and or Kobe.
    Last edited by Killakobe81; 06-19-2015 at 03:01 PM.

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    Absolutely. No Rondo. No Dragic. No LMA. No Love.

    I'll be pissed if either of the above are Lakers.

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    dont but this he is selling there is no one out there that Lakers should pay max to ...
    No doubt. Best case scenario for us this year in terms of big-time FAs is to use our assets (movable expiring contracts and/or picks) to pry away a disgruntled star ala Pau. Not expecting it though.

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    Disagree. There is no Main free agent to get. Only you doomsday prognosticators are worried about this free agent class. I would not offer anyone in this class that is a UFA a max deal. I do think they should try and offer a max to Jimmy Butler but he is a RFA. None of the UFA's make sense for us. Marc wont come because we jerked around Pau and LMA makes sense for the spurs who are close to contention (and even still at a max deal that will be a mistake imho) not the Lakers, who are rebuilding. I would also consider Tobias Harris, Demarre Carroll but not at big money new max prices.

    Bottom line is the only thing that matters is the draft. This analysis by you is well below par and sounds like casual Laker fan or pure wishful hater think ... I expect better. I just hope our FO isnt thinking short term like you are. 2016 is the big year to judge our management, not 2015. Dont just throw money at B level or over 30 stars. say no to Dragic, rondo, LMA etc.
    What? There was no analysis. It was a statement of fact. There's a reason Mitch has come out talking about FA so much. There's a reason the articles about LA dropping Hill for cap space are appearing. They have been linked with the big name FAs and while Killa the poster wouldn't spend money, LA see's it differently. By your logic, no one deserves max but 2-3 guys. Since those 3 guys are on teams, you have to compete for the other best talents.

    LA has whiffed on those talents like never before, has been in 2 straight lotteries and their first lottery pick looks pretty bad especially coming off an injury. It was obsevation of reality - not analysis.

    The analysis will be after their moves and what happens in FA. If the trend of LA targeting max FA and being turned down despite having max money continues, there is no where to hide - it means things have indeed changed. You liking the signings or saying you dodged a bullet doesn't matter and has no bearing. That's not the question to be answered.

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    Doesn't hold a candle to Duncan letting some guy with a story walk away with Tim's $25 million. Too bad this didn't happen when he could don Amy for 12.5 of it.

    Damn, if you hadn't short circuited that A/C unit you wouldn't even have your 2nd 5th, but James would have his 3rd. Hard to decide:::I don't know whether to or go blind.

    That doesn't make any sense and has absolutely no bearing on this thread. If you continue to spam, you will be banned.

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    Also Killa, you are wrong - there are no new max prices yet. The prices don't jump this summer, it's next. So theres a massive flaw/hole in your thinking and counter argument.

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    What? There was no analysis. It was a statement of fact. There's a reason Mitch has come out talking about FA so much. There's a reason the articles about LA dropping Hill for cap space are appearing. They have been linked with the big name FAs and while Killa the poster wouldn't spend money, LA see's it differently. By your logic, no one deserves max but 2-3 guys. Since those 3 guys are on teams, you have to compete for the other best talents.

    LA has whiffed on those talents like never before, has been in 2 straight lotteries and their first lottery pick looks pretty bad especially coming off an injury. It was obsevation of reality - not analysis.

    The analysis will be after their moves and what happens in FA. If the trend of LA targeting max FA and being turned down despite having max money continues, there is no where to hide - it means things have indeed changed. You liking the signings or saying you dodged a bullet doesn't matter and has no bearing. That's not the question to be answered.
    You are mixing two parts of argument here. Yes, I can say that we dodged a bullet on Melo/Dwight because I said it at the time not after and that is different than saying long term the strategy of overpaying for stars on the wrong side of 30 or B level stars as A level stars is a dumb way to build a team.
    You also dont know your facts what FA have the Lakers really signed? Shaq? artest? Where are the other big name free agents the Lakers have signed?

    The Lakers, the championship version were built by draft picks and smart trades. Signing a big free agent is not a good sign because there is no shaq out there ... I would even settle for Artest but they did not break the bank for Artest and that was my point.

    YEs, Mitch has to say the right things he talks to season ticket holders and he has expressed how impatient "we" are ... but the real fans the good fans are focused on 17 not making the playoffs. Signing those guys above will help raise us above the trash spot we are in but if one of those guys are our best players we will just be mediocre. that, we aint the Clippers.

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    Also Killa, you are wrong - there are no new max prices yet. The prices don't jump this summer, it's next. So theres a massive flaw/hole in your thinking and counter argument.
    No I am not wrong. My point is in the new CBA (pre new TV money) it's dumb to overpay guys not worth it. Heck and I dont care about the TV deal anyways it's ALWAYS dumb to overpay ... I would think a smart spurs fan like yourself would realize this.

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