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starts in 2011?
how about March 2003?
starts in 2011?
how about March 2003?
Why not go back to 570CE, wad?starts in 2011?
how about March 2003?
Good video.
Right, because Ezra Klein and Vox Media are arbitrarily picking dates to absolve the "Repugs." ing idiot.starts in 2011?
how about March 2003?
I don't care who made the really cool animated cartoon, the question is legit
"how about March 2003?"
so y'all rightwingnuts can't answer? Let's "put the past behind us and go forward", same convenience as Iraq, Afghanistan, the economy started on 20 Jan 2009
How about 570CE?
yep, it's VERY LONG and COMPLICATED history, but the immediate past and all the Repug geopolitical ups are the IMMEDIATE FOCUS
Because they made the understandable editorial choice to start from the day Assad fired on protesters.
Repug governance coming up
Republicans bow down to ISIS, hint at shutdown over refugee funding
Gee, who could have foreseen this? Republicans are laying the groundwork for a government shutdown to prevent any funding for a refugee resettlement program.
WASHINGTON — A Republican senator is making the case in the days after the Paris terrorist attacks that a vote on funding the Syrian refugee resettlement should be included in any government funding bill — essentially raising the threat of a government shutdown in an effort to block the Obama administration’s efforts to accept more Syrian refugees.Alabama Republican Sen. Jeff Sessions sent a letter to his colleagues on Monday, asking them to include a measure that would require a vote on the administration’s refugee plans and funding for resettled Syrian refugees in the spending bill that needs to pass Congress by Dec. 11 to keep the government open. […]
Newly-elected Speaker Paul Ryan also stressed Monday morning that House Republicans are looking at all options related to dealing with Syrian refugees. […]
When pressed if Congress could use the funding measure, Ryan did not rule it out.
"We have a funding at the end of the year bill, so we're looking at all of our options,," he said. "We've got to make sure we're protecting ourselves.."
That's ratcheting things up a bit from Sen. Chuck Grassley's desire to include a policy rider to halt the funding in an appropriations bill. Congress will almost certainly not be able to pass an omnibus funding bill for all the separate departments by December 11. They will almost certainly have to pass another continuing resolution to keep funding going in the interim
Now it looks like Republicans are making the case for a shutdown based on their favorite shiny object: Fear. Which is pretty much just what ISIS wants to see the U.S. Congress do.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/1...g?detail=email
Repugs, Useful Idiots playing checkers so far in over their heads in the geopolitical chess match.
Very nice synopsis up to this point for Syria. If we go further back we see a more stable, absolutely brutal dictatorship. Not unusual for the ME.
Boots, are you going to blame the Arab Spring on the Republicans?
Why not start in 1998 (or right around there) with the parking garage bombings in NYC?
of course, invading Iraq caused a chaos that emboldened people in other countries to go after their dictators.
Tunisia seemed to be the only country that didn't go up in flames like the Tunisian kid who went up in flames.
So common folk protesting against dictators and repressive regimes, including in Iran, is a bad thing?
And started by Republicans?
PBS Frontline has a good hour do entary as well which talks about the Iraq situation in 2011
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/rise-of-isis/
Last edited by InRareForm; 11-18-2015 at 12:23 AM.
And yet people still want to say we should send them back to sort out the mess for themselves. Good luck.
People in other countries can try to "regime change" their BAD GUY all they want (and CIA is often instigator or involved), good luck, but whether it's "regime change" from inside or from the USA, it almost NEVER produces an improvement, and most often produces a very long nasty disaster. Spain, Portugal, and, so far, Tunisia are exceptions.
America has always created, supported, maintained the nastiest dictators for decades. America doesn't care about democracy or dictatorship in another countries, but only if the country supports USA's financial interests. Chile, Philippines, Egypt, Greece, S. Korea, Indonesia, central American countries, Iran, a LONG history of installing, maintaining many nasty regimes aligned with USA.
America doesn't care what form of govt a country has, ONLY if it is indifferent to, aligned with the American Empire. If against America, it's gonna be targeted, sooner or later.
Fubar'ed
Go away, got
This video has a few truths and a whole lot of bull . Let's examine:
Lie #1: The claim that Syrian opposition started fighting back in July 2011.
False. Syrian police started getting killed as early as March 2011, and their police headquarters getting burned to the ground:
Syria: Seven Police Killed, Buildings Torched in Protests. 3/21/2011
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...6#.VkyC-PmrRhE
It is said that snipers on rooftops were also station and fired on crowd and police. Nobody knows who these snipers are. Some say they were Assad's snipers, some say they were Mercenary snipers.
truth is, the protests were violent from the very beginnning.
Lie #2: The claim that Assad released jihadist prisoners to tinge rebellion with extremist.
This is nothing but pure unfounded conspiracy theory. This is closer to the truth:
Assad did release 260 prisoners from Sednaya prison on 25th of March 2011. 14 of them Kurds. Same day he pulled back secuity forces from Daraa in an attempt to quell the anger. At the time most protesters were calling for reforms and not Assad's ouster, and this was an attempt at meeting them.
“There is a kind of anger and tension,” said Abd el-Karim Rihawi, the head of the Syrian Human Rights League. Assad must implement reforms immediately, Rihawi added. “He has some time, and I think it will control the anger of the people.”
“It’s a good start,” Rihawi said.
Lie #3: Saudi Arabia joined the war mainly to counter Iran's involvement.
False. Most reports say Saudi(and Turkey) was involved from the very beginning:
our sources report, is a campaign to enlist thousands of Muslim volunteers in Middle East countries and the Muslim world to fight alongside the Syrian rebels. The Turkish army would house these volunteers, train them and secure their passage into Syria. (Ibid, emphasis added)
NATO headquarters in Brussels and the Turkish high command are meanwhile drawing up plans for their first military step in Syria, which is to arm the rebels with weapons for combating the tanks and helicopters spearheading the Assad regime’s crackdown on dissent. … NATO strategists are thinking more in terms of pouring large quan ies of anti-tank and anti-air rockets, mortars and heavy machine guns into the protest centers for beating back the government armored forces. (DEBKAfile, NATO to give rebels anti-tank weapons, August 14, 2011)
Saudi security officials said, approximately 1,125 Saudis had traveled to fight in Syria since 2011.
http://america.aljazeera.com/article...rebellion.html
Lie #4: Assad used chemical weapons against civilians.
We all know this is a lie. All we know is chemical weapons were used based on UN investigation. We don't know by whom. I have posted numerous posts that debunk this theory. There are very serious reports by MIT that conclude the chemicals were most likely used and manufactured by the Rebels.
Let's not forget the rebels have been confirmed to used chemical weapons just a few weeks ago. Of course you didn't see that reported in the mainstream news.
Lie #5: ISIS fights the other rebels and Kurds not Assad.
Ridiculous lie. Plenty of evidence on youtube of ISIS even eating Syrian Soldier's body parts as early as 2012. come on now.
Lie #6: Russia only bombs "moderate" rebels, not ISIS.
are you ting me, still using this bull line?
So the Russian airplane that got bombed by ISIS was what? a joke? or what about the gains that the Syrians are making in Aleppo, the Kuweris airbase freed from ISIS with Russian air support?
and what about Al Qaeda (Al Nusra) which is well entrenched with "moderate" rebels. Nobody talks about them.
the video is basically the Disney World version of the war in Syria
Last edited by hater; 11-18-2015 at 09:40 AM.
So you think the Arab Spring was instigated by the CIA?
Complete and utter bull above. It's total poop. You are restating claims in the video and altering them and you know this.This video has a few truths and a whole lot of bull . Let's examine:
Lie #1: The claim that Syrian opposition started fighting back in July 2011.
False. Syrian police started getting killed as early as March 2011, and their police headquarters getting burned to the ground:
Syria: Seven Police Killed, Buildings Torched in Protests. 3/21/2011
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...6#.VkyC-PmrRhE
It is said that snipers on rooftops were also station and fired on crowd and police. Nobody knows who these snipers are. Some say they were Assad's snipers, some say they were Mercenary snipers.
truth is, the protests were violent from the very beginnning.
Lie #2: The claim that Assad released jihadist prisoners to tinge rebellion with extremist.
This is nothing but pure unfounded conspiracy theory. This is closer to the truth:
Assad did release 260 prisoners from Sednaya prison on 25th of March 2011. 14 of them Kurds. Same day he pulled back secuity forces from Daraa in an attempt to quell the anger. At the time most protesters were calling for reforms and not Assad's ouster, and this was an attempt at meeting them.
“There is a kind of anger and tension,” said Abd el-Karim Rihawi, the head of the Syrian Human Rights League. Assad must implement reforms immediately, Rihawi added. “He has some time, and I think it will control the anger of the people.”
“It’s a good start,” Rihawi said.
Lie #3: Saudi Arabia joined the war mainly to counter Iran's involvement.
False. Most reports say Saudi(and Turkey) was involved from the very beginning:
our sources report, is a campaign to enlist thousands of Muslim volunteers in Middle East countries and the Muslim world to fight alongside the Syrian rebels. The Turkish army would house these volunteers, train them and secure their passage into Syria. (Ibid, emphasis added)
NATO headquarters in Brussels and the Turkish high command are meanwhile drawing up plans for their first military step in Syria, which is to arm the rebels with weapons for combating the tanks and helicopters spearheading the Assad regime’s crackdown on dissent. … NATO strategists are thinking more in terms of pouring large quan ies of anti-tank and anti-air rockets, mortars and heavy machine guns into the protest centers for beating back the government armored forces. (DEBKAfile, NATO to give rebels anti-tank weapons, August 14, 2011)
Saudi security officials said, approximately 1,125 Saudis had traveled to fight in Syria since 2011.
http://america.aljazeera.com/article...rebellion.html
Lie #4: Assad used chemical weapons against civilians.
We all know this is a lie. All we know is chemical weapons were used based on UN investigation. We don't know by whom. I have posted numerous posts that debunk this theory. There are very serious reports by MIT that conclude the chemicals were most likely used and manufactured by the Rebels.
Let's not forget the rebels have been confirmed to used chemical weapons just a few weeks ago. Of course you didn't see that reported in the mainstream news.
Lie #5: ISIS fights the other rebels and Kurds not Assad.
Ridiculous lie. Plenty of evidence on youtube of ISIS even eating Syrian Soldier's body parts as early as 2012. come on now.
Lie #6: Russia only bombs "moderate" rebels, not ISIS.
So the Russian airplane that got bombed by ISIS was what? a joke? or what about the gains that the Syrians are making in Aleppo, the Kuweris airbase freed from ISIS with Russian air support?
and what about Al Qaeda (Al Nusra) which is well entrenched with "moderate" rebels. Nobody talks about them.
the video is basically the Disney World version of the war in Syria
Your love for the Assads is noted.
Tell us about Hama and how the elder Assad handled this situation?
Your claim of love for humanity is also noted and is total BS as well.
Hater and his love for his kind of slaughter is indeed an amazing contradiction.Cosmo and Hater may possibly be the two most massive dupes on this board.
This video has a few truths and a whole lot of bull . Let's examine:
Lie #1: The claim that Syrian opposition started fighting back in July 2011.
False. Syrian police started getting killed as early as March 2011, and their police headquarters getting burned to the ground:
Syria: Seven Police Killed, Buildings Torched in Protests. 3/21/2011
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...6#.VkyC-PmrRhE
It is said that snipers on rooftops were also station and fired on crowd and police. Nobody knows who these snipers are. Some say they were Assad's snipers, some say they were Mercenary snipers.
truth is, the protests were violent from the very beginnning.
Lie #2: The claim that Assad released jihadist prisoners to tinge rebellion with extremist.
This is nothing but pure unfounded conspiracy theory. This is closer to the truth:
Assad did release 260 prisoners from Sednaya prison on 25th of March 2011. 14 of them Kurds. Same day he pulled back secuity forces from Daraa in an attempt to quell the anger. At the time most protesters were calling for reforms and not Assad's ouster, and this was an attempt at meeting them.
“There is a kind of anger and tension,” said Abd el-Karim Rihawi, the head of the Syrian Human Rights League. Assad must implement reforms immediately, Rihawi added. “He has some time, and I think it will control the anger of the people.”
“It’s a good start,” Rihawi said.
Lie #3: Saudi Arabia joined the war mainly to counter Iran's involvement.
False. Most reports say Saudi(and Turkey) was involved from the very beginning:
our sources report, is a campaign to enlist thousands of Muslim volunteers in Middle East countries and the Muslim world to fight alongside the Syrian rebels. The Turkish army would house these volunteers, train them and secure their passage into Syria. (Ibid, emphasis added)
NATO headquarters in Brussels and the Turkish high command are meanwhile drawing up plans for their first military step in Syria, which is to arm the rebels with weapons for combating the tanks and helicopters spearheading the Assad regime’s crackdown on dissent. … NATO strategists are thinking more in terms of pouring large quan ies of anti-tank and anti-air rockets, mortars and heavy machine guns into the protest centers for beating back the government armored forces. (DEBKAfile, NATO to give rebels anti-tank weapons, August 14, 2011)
Saudi security officials said, approximately 1,125 Saudis had traveled to fight in Syria since 2011.
http://america.aljazeera.com/article...rebellion.html
Lie #4: Assad used chemical weapons against civilians.
We all know this is a lie. All we know is chemical weapons were used based on UN investigation. We don't know by whom. I have posted numerous posts that debunk this theory. There are very serious reports by MIT that conclude the chemicals were most likely used and manufactured by the Rebels.
Let's not forget the rebels have been confirmed to used chemical weapons just a few weeks ago. Of course you didn't see that reported in the mainstream news.
Lie #5: ISIS fights the other rebels and Kurds not Assad.
Ridiculous lie. Plenty of evidence on youtube of ISIS even eating Syrian Soldier's body parts as early as 2012. come on now.
Lie #6: Russia only bombs "moderate" rebels, not ISIS.
So the Russian airplane that got bombed by ISIS was what? a joke? or what about the gains that the Syrians are making in Aleppo, the Kuweris airbase freed from ISIS with Russian air support?
and what about Al Qaeda (Al Nusra) which is well entrenched with "moderate" rebels. Nobody talks about them.
the video is basically the Disney World version of the war in Syria
wow. brutal debunking of that video.
I'm sad that most ppl will watch that video and take it all for truth. Poor sons of es, they can't help it.
That's the kind of world we live in.
thanks man.wow. brutal debunking of that video.
I'm sad that most ppl will watch that video and take it all for truth. Poor sons of es, they can't help it.
That's the kind of world we live in.
I felt compelled even if it opens the eyes of at least 1 of the 3 or 4 posters that post in this forum
and we hear this kind of everyday from mainstream media. "assad used chemicals" "assad was commiting genocide" "the russians are not fighting ISIS" "ISIS is not fighting Assad" it's sad and pathetic entire populations are taking those lies as facts.
"Thanks bruh...thanks man.
I felt compelled even if it opens the eyes of at least 1 of the 3 or 4 posters that post in this forum
and we hear this kind of everyday from mainstream media. "assad used chemicals" "assad was commiting genocide" "the russians are not fighting ISIS" "ISIS is not fighting Assad" it's sad and pathetic entire populations are taking those lies as facts.
I thought I was the lone disingenuous fruit bat."
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