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Scary......Voter suppression is what the GOP calls 'the silent majority'
...at this point....this is the only way they can win....and it's gonna get worse as the South drifts democratic politically...
Before the wave of GOP pushed voter ID laws, we were told, "it doesn't solve a problem, and will simply keep some people from legitimately voting".
http://www.npr.org/2012/07/18/156935...-voter-id-laws
http://www.npr.org/2012/01/28/146006...some-wont-vote
Shockingly enough, depressing voter turnout is exactly what happened.The argument over whether voters should have to present photo identification at the polls usually splits along party lines. Republicans who favor the requirement say it prevents ballot fraud. Democrats and election rights groups who oppose it say it is meant to suppress turnout.
Study Backs Up What Advocates Predicted: Strict Voter ID Laws Reduce Minority Turnout
http://kut.org/post/study-backs-what...nority-turnout
Voter ID laws were supposed to prevent voter fraud, but despite the best efforts of a vast army of conservative copypasta warriors, no one has ever proven the types of fraud that ID laws would curb actually exists.
So either the idiots pushing this expanded government and increased government spending without knowing this, in which case they are idiots, or they knew exactly what they were doing, and it was a cynical, overtly racist, policy solution to keep people from voting, for the SOLE purpose of preventing people who might vote for a different political party from actually voting.
Idiots, or cynical assholes? Which is it?
Personally I think it is the latter, taking advantage of the former.
Scary......Voter suppression is what the GOP calls 'the silent majority'
...at this point....this is the only way they can win....and it's gonna get worse as the South drifts democratic politically...
"drifts democratic politically"
gerrymandering and voter suppression will keep slave and red states red.
Meh...eventually the 'blue' cities are going to overwhelm the rural 'red' vote...
Yeah, when disenfranchisement is your party's policy, I can't support your party.
Lol....I've goofed off on this site long enough to have watched this conversation and thread take place every two years for 9 years now. That's pretty funny .
Only difference is now our board Republicans don't even try to argue MASSIVE VOTE FRAUD anymore.
gerrymandering is irreversible in slave, red states, and Repg SCOTUS gutted VRA. And then there is red, slave state and their vote counting fraud.
why dont minorities carry photo id?
some reasons in the OP's npr articles...
Why is a law requiring an ID to vote necessary?
That's true because you and about three other posters are still posting the EXACT same in the exact same way you were a decade ago.
Sounds super thrilling!
... because Repug LIES about massive, election-modifying VOTER FRAUD have been told forever.
Their "super thrilling" voter fraud LIE is a charade to cover for voter suppression.
Eyup. I would agree. This isn't an old conversation.
What is new though, is that there is a bit more evidence to support the statement "this is unfair".
How much evidence do you need before you get angry, or convinced that it was wrong in the first place, if you aren't either.
Or do rank and file Republicans just look the other way while their leaders do something ty?
That is what I am curious about.
Never said it should be.
There may be a legitimate gripe behind some of the issues raised by the article (needing an ID to get an ID). But some of the excuses -- having to drive far to the DMV, having to wait in line, etc... -- are pathetic.
If you don't drive, don't fly, and don't leave the country, there's not really much of a reason to have a photo ID. You only need a Social Security card to find legal work.
If you have a bank account, if you get detained, if you purchase alcohol, purchase life insurance, take out a mortgage, etc... There are plenty of additional reasons.
How many poor people do stuff like purchase life insurance or take out a mortgage though? Do you actually ever get carded buying alcohol after age 30? This voter ID crap is designed to chip away a couple percent of votes from the elderly poor and from young voters.
Poor people buy alcohol all the time. And I get carded at liquor stores or gas stations all the time too.
Some of the beef is legitimate and there certainly are ulterior motives.
That being said lots of people don't have IDs who probably should and the excuses proffered by that article are beyond pathetic.
Repug LIE: voter fraud is a huge problem (but Repugs can't offer any evidence, they just make up , like Bible humpers)
Truth: voter fraud is not ANY SIZE problem. Repugs have a strategy of LYING to facilitate voter suppression, esp in the slave states where Repug SCOTUS enabled voter suppression by gutting VRA.
If one has to work 60-80+ hours a week to support oneself, or simply are too old to drive a car, taking the time/effort is a huge barrier for something that offers little tangible benefits.
Can't say I am surprised you took the chance to on poor/old people though. You never fail to fail in the humanity department.
If one has to work 60-80 hours (which, btw, is pure speculation on your part especially considering the article referenced those in rural areas), they can still take 4 hours to get an ID once every 6 years.
But more importantly, lol thinking I give a whether you think I'm a good person or not. Who exactly are you to judge?
And if these people are so slammed, when are they finding the time to wait in line and vote?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2073119.html
Kind of part of the point. GOP legislatures have also started cutting back on flexible voting times, so that people whose employers don't give them time off to go vote... can't.
Part and parcel of yet another ty cynical move to make sure that likely Democratic voters are disenfranchised.
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