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I can't imagine buying anything else without having any idea what the price would be.
This is disgusting that you can't even get an estimate from a hospital. LOL our ed up health care system.
I can't imagine buying anything else without having any idea what the price would be.
Just one of the 100s of ways BigCorp s over and sucks wealth out Americans.
Trump will fix everything, and we'll all love each other.
There was story in NYT about a fully insured guy who found a $10K item on his bill.
Turns out his surgeon was in-network, but another surgeon who stood around and watched the operating surgeon was out-of-network.
Not really defending the hospitals but every birth IS different. Some squirt out like watermelons and some are breech/cesarean, some babies have health issues that can keep them in the hospital for months, etc. My daughter worked at Dell childrens ain the neonatal intensive care unit and there was one guy that was the genetic carrier of this awful birth defect that had three different babies that went there from three different mothers over a two year period. Babies were in there for like a year.
He's just asking what a standard birth with no health issues costs.
if it cost more than riva, mossberg, and hue combined.......its not worth it.
Not possible. Once the pregnant woman's water breaks labor is in full swing, but because every woman and birth is different, there is no estimate as to how long the labor will last. And while she is in labor, she is using hospital resources----the room, the monitors, nursing hours, IV fluids and medications, etc. If there was a way ensure that the labor/delivery lasted a finite number of hours, then an accurate estimate would be possible. But some women spit them out after an hour of labor, and others (like myself) labor for 24 hours for a "standard birth with no health issues".
They can't provide an estimate of the price for a one hour labor, a six hour one, a 24 hour one?
thats a good point
Not really because everyone is different. I've seen patients that require the same amt of pain med in 6 hours that some use in 24 hours. If someone comes in a bit more dehydrated than the one in the next bed, they'll require a couple more bags of iv fluid----but it's still a standard labor and delivery. Also included in the labor and delivery price is the care of the newborn (until the newborn is transferred to the nursery); so if the baby requires an extra hour of oxygen, warming bassinet, etc it's all included in the delivery price and just a few of the MANY variables that can be part of a "standard" birth.
They never charge that way.
I think more than anything, that guy has uncovered a customer service problem than a hidden agenda about costs of labor/delivery with the hospitals. When he finally got that estimate he should have asked for an itemized list of what it covers, then he could have compared the costs afterward. The price of the variables would stand out clearly and he woudn't be left thinking the hospital was trying to pull something over on him.
So they have an average.
But wont give it out.
If you saw the video, the hospital that finally answered him gave him one.
are you saying that iv fluid/meds is included with labor and delivery in a price package, or are they charged for each item?
I'd say it costs about 10k
Obviously hospitals won't give you an estimate because their books are so ed up, they don't even know
A couple of posts back you made it sound like cost would be predictable based on time of labor. And he only got an estimate from a single hospital. You don't see the extreme moral hazard in hospitals not going over what such and such treatment, drug, room usage, doctor's time, etc are going to cost? So you can't plan which hospital would make the most sense to go to?
What other product or service would anyone buy without even getting a ballpark idea of price?
if you're worried about the cost of labor, maybe you shouldn't be having a child. tbh imo fwiw
The "package" includes pricing for minimal care, but I don't know exactly how much of what it includes. They will definitely charge for every alcohol wipe and rubber glove above and beyond what's included in the package
I have to say I have much more experience as a patient in L&D than as a nurse. But in my specialty area (trauma, critical care) EVERY supply is charged individually, I think it works like that in most depts.
i don't remember asking for the price of each item.
would they provide that cost information prior to labor, if one asked?
I think a time estimate would make it more predictable, not 100% accurate. I didn't say I don't have a problem with how it works, I was clarifying how it works and how many variables there can be in a routine, uncomplicated delivery. I don't think it's a moral problem, I think it's a serious customer service problem. He only got an estimate from a single hospital because they were the only one to answer their phone or return his call. Everyone has a right to that info but when you get an "estimate" thats all it is, an estimate----like in any other business.
Yes if you can get them to answer the phone or return your call lol
I've asked several of my medical professional friends if they knew the costs of the products and services they were administering. Hospitals keep their employees in the dark so even if they wanted to inform their patients they could not. The people running the wards didn't know and administrators tell to back off.The "package" includes pricing for minimal care, but I don't know exactly how much of what it includes. They will definitely charge for every alcohol wipe and rubber glove above and beyond what's included in the package
I have to say I have much more experience as a patient in L&D than as a nurse. But in my specialty area (trauma, critical care) EVERY supply is charged individually, I think it works like that in most depts.
The pricing is done after the fact. Must be nice.
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