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    Veteran Thebesteva's Avatar
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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    So you want a league that rewards people like DeAndre Jordan and Dwight Howard who can't be bothered to learn basketball skills?

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    SeaGOAT midnightpulp's Avatar
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    So you want a league that rewards people like DeAndre Jordan and Dwight Howard who can't be bothered to learn basketball skills?
    Of course he does. The Spurs employ hack-a, so Lakerfan doesn't like it.

    Yeah, it slows the game down, but the bigger picture here is more important: players like Dwight and DeMonkey shouldn't be rewarded for completely refusing to learn an important basketball skill. I'll deal with it to keep the integrity of the game intact.

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    Veteran Thebesteva's Avatar
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    Of course he does. The Spurs employ hack-a, so Lakerfan doesn't like it.

    Yeah, it slows the game down, but the bigger picture here is more important: players like Dwight and DeMonkey shouldn't be rewarded for completely refusing to learn an important basketball skill. I'll deal with it to keep the integrity of the game intact.
    why would I give a as a Laker fan? Because a past hall of a famer struggled with FT's? You guys cant be this ing stupid

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    SeaGOAT midnightpulp's Avatar
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    why would I give a as a Laker fan? Because a past hall of a famer struggled with FT's? You guys cant be this ing stupid
    So what's your argument against hack-a other than, "It slows the game down ."

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    Board Man Comes Home Clipper Nation's Avatar
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    This is just pure gotry by the league, especially since the hack-a strategy seems to backfire on the team using it way more often than it works anyway. How about instead of changing the rules, they start enforcing the rules they already have on their Golden Girls in Oakland? You know, like the rules against illegal screens, handchecking, hooking, pushing off, and throwing bows.

    If they really feel the need to change the rules, how about they address the ridiculous focus on threes at the expense of all other aspects of the game? Maybe make the three-pointer count for as many points as any other shot (sans free throws)? Either bump all the other shots up to 3 points or bump the three-pointer down to 2. Now that the three-ball is an established part of the game instead of a new gimmick, we've long since passed the phase where players needed to be enticed into shooting them with the promise of an extra point. Take that advantage away and maybe we'd start seeing balanced offenses again instead of the league devolving into a three-point chucking contest.

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    Purple and Bold! whitemamba's Avatar
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    This is ing shameful, learn how to shoot a ing free throw , I mean Christ , I can shoot over 50% left handed. move by the NBA.

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    This is ing shameful, learn how to shoot a ing free throw , I mean Christ , I can shoot over 50% left handed. move by the NBA.

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    Veteran Thebesteva's Avatar
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    So what's your argument against hack-a other than, "It slows the game down ."
    I feel like it takes a game out of rhythm...seriously I cant watch that

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    Erryday I'm Hustlin' Robz4000's Avatar
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    today's NBA

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    Today's NBA

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    Chillin' like a villain... TampaDude's Avatar
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    Of course he does. The Spurs employ hack-a, so Lakerfan doesn't like it.

    Yeah, it slows the game down, but the bigger picture here is more important: players like Dwight and DeMonkey shouldn't be rewarded for completely refusing to learn an important basketball skill. I'll deal with it to keep the integrity of the game intact.
    ^ this, tbh

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    Meyer Lanskey approves of this rule change

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    Silver should be figuring out a way for his officials, both on and off the court, to quit ing up games and overlooking critical infractions.

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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    I don't understand putting a rule just for Jordan, Drummond, and Howard. These are the guys the league wants to structure its rules around? These are the players who are supposed to represent the pinnacle of professional basketball?

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    Lab Animal Capt Bringdown's Avatar
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    Ever try to improve your FT shooting? I have. It's not that big of a deal.

    Practice everyday, even for a few minutes, and your percentage will improve.

    These dudes are professionals, ffs. Getting paid millions of dollars to play a kid's game. And they can't improve their FT shooting to at least 65-70%?
    Jackass rule change, IMO.

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    One game suspension for any player who shoots under 50% ft for a game..

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    This is stupid. Like making new laws for texting while driving... There are already rules on the books for this (reckless driving /distracted driving). Intentional fouls 2 shots and the ball. Flagrant... The play of jack a shaq isn't nt a basketball play or a play on the ball...

    I don't think this is an issue of rewarding bad free throw shooting... It is a way to improve viewership for casual fans... Just like the stupid hand-checking rules that have allowed teams like the GSW to prosper, and increasing the width of the key and adding the protected cylinder and zone defense etc...

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    Good. The NBA should have changed the rules years ago to prevent hacking away from the ball / away from the play. That's not basketball.

    I don't think it's not a matter of rewarding bad free throw shooters. To me, it's a way to get teams and players back to actually playing basketball. Fouling a guy who is nowhere near the ball and nowhere near the action isn't basketball to me. Should still be able to foul bad free throw shooters when they go up for a shot, attempt to rebound the ball, even when they set screens. At least that's fouling in the course of playing the game. The away from the ball hack-a-whoever is not basketball.

    There was a regular season game between the Pistons and the Rockets where at the start of the third quarter, Bickerstaff had one of his end of the bench players foul Andre Drummond 5 straight times in the first 20 seconds of the quarter just to get into the bonus so they could start putting him on the free throw line. That's not basketball.

    It's no defense for guys like Drummond and Jordan. They need to take more pride in their profession and get at least adequate at the free throw line. But it's like with Dean Smith's four corner offense holding the ball for the entire half and how it gave birth to the shot clock. At some point it's not basketball anymore and you have to do something about it.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    Only pussies & assholes hack.

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    The Legend Grows da_suns_fan's Avatar
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    If youre fouled off the ball (and over the limit), allow said team to take the free throws or the ball out of bounds (their choice).

    Problem solved.

    Teams cant hide bad free throw shooters (you can still hack someone with the ball and put them on the line) but we dont get this awful that defensive Spurs fan try to defend.

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    It's fine that you say "it's not basketball" but do you also day that inability to shoot makes you not a basketball player.

    They could change how you do the bonus.

    I would say, a fair rule, if the ref thinks the foul was intentional then the foul should always be considered to be against the ball handler at the time. This makes sense: you foul a shooter to prevent their shot, intentional fouls have the same purpose but cir vent rule

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    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    It's fine that you say "it's not basketball" but do you also day that inability to shoot makes you not a basketball player.
    It's the only "weakness" that teams can forcibly make a player do without actually doing it in the course of play by running up to a guy way away from the action and forcing him to shoot free throws.

    If a player is really weak at dribbling and shooting with his off hand, you can't go run up to him, foul him, and then he has to dribble and shoot with his off hand for that possession.

    If a player is bad at boxing out, you can't tap him on the shoulder and then say he's the only one on his team who can rebound a missed shot, and if it's rebounded by his teammates, possession goes to the other team.

    A poor shooter is the only guy whose weakness can be exposed forcibly outside the course and action of play. A bad three point shooter can't be forced to shoot three pointers. A guy who is not a good passer cannot be forced to facilitate the offense. A player who is not good at finishing at the rim cannot be forced to drive and attempt to score. Shooting free throws is the only exploitable weakness the opposing team can forcibly make a player do. And when it happens in the course of the action, no problem. He has the ball in his hands, foul him. He attempts a shot, foul him. He sets a screen, foul him. No problem with that at all. He's 25 feet away from the ball and nowhere near the action, the opposing team should not be able to foul him to force him to shoot free throws without a different penalty than just two free throws. My opinion.

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