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yes it is
how about an inbredocracy
W's for it, even though he probably doesn't understand it because it involves that evl' Science...
Real CitiesWASHINGTON - President Bush waded into the debate over evolution and "intelligent design" Monday, saying schools should teach both theories on the creation and complexity of life.
In a wide-ranging question-and-answer session with a small group of reporters, Bush essentially endorsed efforts by Christian conservatives to give intelligent design equal standing with the theory of evolution in the nation's schools.
On other topics, Bush said he has no idea how Supreme Court nominee John G. Roberts would vote in a case challenging the legality of abortion because he never asked him about it. He also defended Baltimore Orioles first baseman Rafael Palmeiro, who was suspended Monday for using performance-enhancing steroids.
Bush declined to state his personal views on "intelligent design," the belief that life forms are so complex that their creation can't be explained by Darwinian evolutionary theory alone, but rather points to intentional creation, presumably divine.
Meanwhile, the meany lefties are up in arms about what is being thought in these intelligent design courses...
ChronicleGroup says Bible course riddled with bias, errors
Producers of the curriculum taught in Texas schools charge censorship
By JIM VERTUNO
Associated Press
AUSTIN - A religious watch-dog group went on the attack Monday against a Bible study course taught in hundreds of schools in Texas and across the country, complaining it pushes students toward conservative Protestant viewpoints and violates religious freedom.
The Texas Freedom Network, which includes clergy of several faiths, said the course offered by the Greensboro, N.C.-based National Council on Bible Curriculum in Public Schools is full of errors and dubious research that promote a fundamentalist Christian view.
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Kathy Miller, president of Texas Freedom Network, said her group looked at the course after the Odessa school board voted in April to offer a Bible class. It asked Southern Methodist University professor and biblical scholar Mark A. Chancey to review the class curriculum. Miller said Chancey was not paid for his work.
Chancey's review found the Bible is characterized as inspired by God, discussions of science are based on the claims of biblical creationists, Jesus is referred to as fulfilling Old Testament prophecy and archaeological findings are erroneously used to support claims of the Bible's historical accuracy. He said the course suggests the Bible, instead of the Cons ution, be considered the nation's founding do ent.
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Biblical law over secular law as a "founding" do ent? Once someone believes the Bible (a religious book) is the basis for the principles, values and laws of a country - instead of a secular Cons ution, aren't we talking about a theocracy?
That is the definition of theocracy isn't it? (government) founded in and based upon a (specific) religion?
yes it is
how about an inbredocracy
2nd Law of Thermodynamics. We should be a random pile of various elements and compounds at their simplest and most stable state, not the highly organized form of life that we are.
Only in Texas....
Yeah, divinity.
I had an imaginary friend once....
I don't agree with Dubya on this one...
Intelligent design is not science. It's position is that whatever evolution/science cannot explain must be due to God. Adjust as needed as science explains more things.
easy
adam and eve
inbreeding and more inbreeding
can yall imagine how smart adam and eve must have been?
You gotta remember, according to the old Testiment Adam and Eve lived for hundreds of years. Lots of time to breed and inbreed.
There happens to be a little diddy on this very topic at some dude's blog, which you can find here: http://redstripedshirt.blogspot.com
[Christian fundamentalists] are trying to get Creationism taught in schools as a science. Now, other than the obvious, only objection: IT'S NOT ONE ... other than that, I think that'd be a killer idea. 'Cause it would definately be the shortest class of the day.
Welcome to Creationist Science. God created the Heavens and Earth. On the seventh day He rested.
See you at the final.
We have a Bible out called ‘The New Living Bible,’ it’s the Bible in updated and modern English,” Hicks says during a film of a 1992 London performance. “I guess to make it more palatable for people to read. But it’s really weird, when you listen to it. ‘And Jesus walked on water. And Peter said, “Awesome!”’ Suddenly we got Jesus hanging ten across the Sea of Galilee. Christ’s Bogus Adventure, you know. Deuteronomy 90210, you know.”
--Bill Hicks
Creationists neglect the external source of energy in the system, namely the big hot glowing ball in the sky.
I'm all for teaching intelligent design in schools -- maybe Art Bell can put together a curriculum about how aliens started life on earth.
Well, I'm certainly not a creationist (I find it amazing that in a world so dependent on the oil industry that people would actually think the world is only 10,000 years old), but if you can make the logical progression that the input of energy is solely responsible for the organization of complex life in the universe, the planet Mercury would be one highly organized & evolved MF'er.
Really, the jump that long-chain polymers just happened to develop in such a way that they interacted with sunlight purely by chance is similar to that of people believing that something organized them that way. It's a pretty big stretch either way, and it's just your own personal belief.
What I find interesting is that for all of recorded history (and some that is known only from archeology), mankind has always had some sort of belief in the supernatural/religion. There probably is a reason for that, and it depends on what your personal beliefs are as to what that reason is.
It doesn't "solely explain" it, but it does make it scientifically possible.Well, I'm certainly not a creationist (I find it amazing that in a world so dependent on the oil industry that people would actually think the world is only 10,000 years old), but if you can make the logical progression that the input of energy is solely responsible for the organization of complex life in the universe, the planet Mercury would be one highly organized & evolved MF'er.
Experimentation shows that those molecules are predisposed to self-replicate in a way that mimics life.Really, the jump that long-chain polymers just happened to develop in such a way that they interacted with sunlight purely by chance is similar to that of people believing that something organized them that way. It's a pretty big stretch either way, and it's just your own personal belief.
Now cosmology, and the remarkable fine-tuning of the properties of matter and of the forces in the universe necessary for matter even to exist, and the fine-tuning of the location, size, etc. of Earth and of its sun in order for life even to be possible, those do point to a creative force.
I don't have a problem with ID. It's not really science, but science isn't the only kind of truth. Maybe ID is more a philosophy about science.
Yes. Those people are the theocratic right. If it came down to it, I might invite you to stand beside me and shoot at them if they got in a position to end the Republic.Biblical law over secular law as a "founding" do ent? Once someone believes the Bible (a religious book) is the basis for the principles, values and laws of a country - instead of a secular Cons ution, aren't we talking about a theocracy?
no it is not
what intelligent design means is that the design is intelligent
the complex life we see, the self-replicating single stranded RNA that formed in the sea of random crap
all of that was due to an intelligent plan
the nucleotide code, etc
its not about labeling god as the reason for unexplained stuff
cuz if you get into 'unexplained' then nothing in science is really explained if you probe deep enough
kakistocracy
SYLLABICATION: kak·is·toc·ra·cy
NOUN: Inflected forms: pl. kak·is·toc·ra·cies
Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.
hey jekka, what are you Ms. Dictionary?
those experiments also show low fidelity in replicationExperimentation shows that those molecules are predisposed to self-replicate in a way that mimics life.
I thought kakistocracy meant everyone in the government had to wear Dockers.
Hiyo!
And God said "Let there be light"
{BIG BANG}
And there was light.
Just because someone believes the current cosmological and evolutionary theories explain the data the best does not mean that person does not believe in a God that started it all.
The supposed war between science and faith is a false one.
Not in the eyes of a large contingent of extremist Christians. The "battle" may be exaggerated, but it isn't imaginary.The supposed war between science and faith is a false one.
Indeed.
To that group of Christians, their theology is the only acceptable one for Christianity, and their way of understanding the Bible is the only allowable one.
They've set it up where mainstream science DOES disprove their particular beliefs, so that their only choices are apostasy or anti-intellectualism.
They had this big conference a few weeks ago, where they come out and admit that if they are wrong and mainstream science is right, then Christianity is a myth, there is no moral code governing our lives, and we all ought to become hedonists. Wow, what a powerful witness to the outside world: "if you believe that the advancements of modern society aren't all one huge big coincidence, then just assume our faith is false." When Richard Dawkins hears that, I think it makes him so happy he pees a little.
You might say, wait a minute, can't they just admit maybe their human understanding of the Bible was flawed, and adjust it? Yes, I suppose they could, but that would require the leaders to demonstrate 1)humility and 2)some forfeiture of some authority and power among their parishoners.
Also known as the "vast right wing conspiracy".
You people are looking for a reverse witch hunt. Get over it. Creationists with torches and pitchforks aren't going to storm your house.
The only battle is the one that you perpetuate.
True.The supposed war between science and faith is a false one.
Try reading this book:
Inventing the Flat Earth
Jeffrey Burton Russell
Greenwood Publishing
I had to read it for a history of science class at A&M. A lot of the supposed "rift" between science and religion has been created in the past few hundred years by a very small number of people.
EDIT: To any lazy engineering students out there, I highly recommend this class.
Are you claiming that creationists are not in fact trying to eliminate the teaching of mainstream science from public education, and are not in fact trying to suppress legitimate scientific research that conflicts with their narrow strain of theology? Are you kidding me?Also known as the "vast right wing conspiracy".
You people are looking for a reverse witch hunt. Get over it. Creationists with torches and pitchforks aren't going to storm your house.
The only battle is the one that you perpetuate.
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