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1. Andrew Luck
HUGE GAP
14. Newton
15. Struggle Wilson
the mid 2000's-2010's saw arguably the golden age of NFL quarterbacking. Brady, Manning, Brees, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Romo and even some memorable years with Favre, along with some 2nd tier QB's like Flacco, Ryan, Eli, Palmer, McNabb, Hasselbeck, Schaub and some other names I'm probably missing.
But what do all these QB's have in common? They're 30 or older. Yep, even Flacco and Ryan. Now, we've seen QB's play well into their late 30's with great success, so it's not like these guys are done or over the hill (among the active ones, outisde of Peyton Manning). But when looking at the future of the position, I don't think we're going to see a continuation of this so-called golden era.
QB's under 30 (just going to put them alphabetically, I'll let you guys do the rankings)
Blake Bortles
Sam Bradford
Teddy Bridgewater
Derek Carr
Andy Dalton
Nick FOles
Colin Kaepernick
Andrew Luck
Marcus Mariota
Cam Newton
Matt Stafford
Ryan Tannehill
Tyrod Taylor
Russell Wilson
Jameis Winston
Those are all the starters in the league under 30. Rank them as you wish.
1. Andrew Luck
HUGE GAP
14. Newton
15. Struggle Wilson
1. Andrew Luck
2. Andy Dalton
3. Matt Stafford
Huge Gap
4-14
Huge Gap
15. Russel Wilson
Russell Wilson...best passer rating, most successful. Who else could run that offense?
Andrew Luck
Cam Newton
Andy Dalton
Matthew Stafford
Teddy Bridgewater
Derek Carr
Ryan Tannehill
Nick Foles
Colin Kaepernick
Sam Bradford
the rest are who has the next great game.
Tier 1: Newton, Luck
Tier 2: Wilson, Dalton, Carr, Tannehill
Tier 3: Bridgewater, Foles, Stafford, Taylor
Tier 4: Kaepernick, Bradford, Mariota, Winston
Outside of a fluke 2011, Stafford has basically been cutler minus athleticism. At this point he's been around long enough for us to say "he is what he is" which is pretty average. Some still rank him high based solely on that one awesome year he had.
I'd take cam over dalton until dalton extends his current play into big games. My gut says dalton has turned a corner but I'm gna have to see it
1 - Luck
2 - Wilson
3 - Cam
4 - Dalton
5 - Carr (based on this year alone, could be above any of these guys, but sample size not there yet)
6 - Tannehill
7 - Tyrod Taylor
8 - Teddy Bridgewater
9 - Matt Stafford
10 - Sam Bradford
11 - Nick Foles
12 - Jameis Winston (shown legitimate improvement)
13 - Colin Kaep
14 - Mariota
made this thread because carr fits into this U30 category
nearly half the starters in the NFL fit in the U30 category. try again
i legit think its glaring how mediocre the U30 crop is compared to the old guard
Probably just going to get worse. These "new" offenses the colleges are running do very little to prepare a QB for the pro game.
made this thread because carr fits into this U30 category
lol why'd you reply twice?
lol why are you in this thread if you can't add to the discussion
what's the criteria?
your own criteria. personally, i balanced the "now" with the potential. wanted some kind of a happy medium. a guy like stafford who's been around for a decently long time... there's really no upside left, so i couldnt rank him too high. and for a winston/mariota... the unknown was too much for me to rank high
if you count potential in, then imo:
luck
stafford
foles
carr
dalton
tannehil
everyone else is scrub level with 0 potential
your fascination with Foles and Glennon is really odd
and why is stafford ranked so high based on potential? he's in his 7th season and calvin is no longer a superhuman. how much improvement do you think the guy's gonna make?
Last edited by spurraider21; 10-26-2015 at 04:59 PM.
he needs a good offensive line and a good coach, the guy can make every throw. He is not a game manager or a monkeyballer or a combination of the two, so that makes him a guy with potential, likely to last more seasons than the others even if they are younger.your fascination with Foles and Glennon is really odd
and why is stafford ranked so high based on potential? he's in his 7th season and calvin is no longer a superhuman. how much improvement do you think the guy's gonna make?
yeah well neither is jay cutler
Right this minute, Russell Wilson has a career passing rating of....98.3. Nobody on that list comes close to that, go ahead check it out.
Andrew Luck 85.5
Cam Newton 84.8
Matthew Stafford 83.9
Last edited by Avante; 10-26-2015 at 05:49 PM.
1. Luck
2. Wilson
The rest are highly variable.
so? not having those qualities doesn't make you a good talent, having them, makes you a bad talent. if or not guys like stafford and cutler have great careers and develop to be great depend mostly on them, while guys like wilson do not depend on themselves.
what i mean is fitting the description of "not a monkeyballer or game manager" doesn't mean you're a good player. especially for somebody who's in his 7th year in the league like stafford. what upside does he have left? we've seen what he is, and he's average even while having an all-time great receiver in his prime and playing in a dome
Dalton #1
well playing behing a good offensive line would be interesting. And having one great weapon is not really much when everybody else is and you never had a running game to speak of. His upside is his arm, it's as simple as that, he is a qb after all. Plus the thing is, there is really little talent at the position, and none of the under 30 qbs can really become the next brady or peyton. They could become the next eli or flacco maybe, but it is what it is..
its a ridiculous simplification to say arm strength is the only measure of a qb's potential/upside, and even then you have to be reaslitic about it. does ryan mallet has the upside to be better than drew brees? is it a realistic scenario?
sure stafford has a strong arm, but he's an erratic passer who developed his entire reputation because of one strong statistical year. do you realistically see him improving much from this point?
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