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    http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/31329/43/

    “Now, I happen to think that the Trump presidency is extremely dangerous. ... They want to dismantle the environment. They want to eliminate the safety net. They want to empower billionaires. They want to enact bigoted policies against Muslims and immigrants and so many others. And it is important to resist them. But what Democrats and Media are doing instead is trying to take maybe the only faction worse than Donald Trump, which is the deep state, the CIA, with its histories of atrocities, and say they ought to almost engage in like a soft coup, where they take the elected president and prevent him from enacting his policies. And I think it is extremely dangerous to do that. Even if you’re somebody who believes that both the CIA and the deep state, on the one hand, and the Trump presidency, on the other, are extremely dangerous, as I do, there’s a huge difference between the two, which is that Trump was democratically elected and is subject to democratic controls, as these courts just demonstrated and as the media is showing, as citizens are proving. But on the other hand, the CIA was elected by nobody. They’re barely subject to democratic controls at all. And so, to urge that the CIA and the intelligence community empower itself to undermine the elected branches of government is insanity. That is a prescription for destroying democracy overnight in the name of saving it. And yet that’s what so many, not just neocons, but the neocons’ allies in the Democratic Party, are now urging and cheering. And it’s incredibly warped and dangerous to watch them do that.”

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    The CIA and the intelligence community were vehemently in support of Clinton and vehemently opposed to Trump, from the beginning. And the reason was, was because they liked Hillary Clinton’s policies better than they liked Donald Trump’s. One of the main priorities of the CIA for the last five years has been a proxy war in Syria, designed to achieve regime change with the Assad regime. Hillary Clinton was not only for that, she was critical of Obama for not allowing it to go further, and wanted to impose a no-fly zone in Syria and confront the Russians. Donald Trump took exactly the opposite view. He said we shouldn’t care who rules Syria; we should allow the Russians, and even help the Russians, kill ISIS and al-Qaeda and other people in Syria. So, Trump’s agenda that he ran on was completely an hetical to what the CIA wanted.

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    “The deep state, although there’s no precise or scientific definition, generally refers to the agencies in Washington that are permanent power factions. They stay and exercise power even as presidents who are elected come and go. They typically exercise their power in secret, in the dark, and so they’re barely subject to democratic accountability, if they’re subject to it at all. It’s agencies like the CIA, the NSA and the other intelligence agencies, that are essentially designed to disseminate disinformation and deceit and propaganda, and have a long history of doing not only that, but also have a long history of the world’s worst war crimes, atrocities and death squads.

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    Why publish in Macedonia?

    Trash was "democratically" elected? by Comey and Assange?

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    Intercept piece was posted here a couple of weeks back. I agree with Greenwald; the machinations of the so-called intelligence community might be more dangerous to democratic rule than Trump.

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    What People dont talk about is what is the desperation and rush of the deep state??? Seems they are working to topple Trump on a deadline.

    Gotta be the fluid events in Syria. ISIS is about to fall and the decision to work with Russia or not might come very soon.

    But other than that could there be other reasons to act so desperate????

    Oh and agree with Greenwald. Courts and citizens were handling Trump just fine. The Media and Democrats selling their souls to Deep State is insane and can be the end to democracy as we know it

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    Lol in2deepstate

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    Former U.S. Attorney Claims FBI Has Names of CIA Leakers

    CIA officials know who has been leaking classified information to The New York Times and The Washington Post, and the officials have passed that information on to Attorney General Jeff Sessions, according to a former U.S. attorney for President Ronald Reagan.


    Joseph diGenova, the former U. S. attorney for the District of Columbia under Reagan, told LifeZette that in private conversations with CIA officials they confirmed they have the names of alleged leakers and have given the names to the U.S. Department of Justice.

    DiGenova’s claim comes after yet another case of leaked classified information to The Washington Post made headlines late Wednesday night.

    The New York Times revealed in a report Wednesday that President Obama’s staffers left bread crumbs for anyone looking to undermine the Trump administration throughout the federal government. The revelation by The Times indicates how a steady drip of embarrassing leaks has tormented the new administration of President Donald Trump.


    On Wednesday night, The Washington Post reported that Attorney General Jeff Sessions had met the Russian ambassador twice in 2016. Sessions was then the junior U.S. senator from Alabama.
    In his confirmation hearings last month, Sessions said he was not aware of any contact between Russian officials and the Trump campaign, a common complaint Democrats have made since the middle of last year. Sessions appeared to include himself in that denial.

    It is not uncommon for senators to meet with ambassadors. But Democrats blame the Russians for damaging hacks into Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s campaign — particularly, the Gmail account of John Podesta, her campaign chairman. The Podesta email leaks repeatedly embarrassed the campaign in the final month of the election.


    Some of the information reportedly planted by Obama officials had to do with alleged ties between President Trump's "associates" — The Times does not define that term — and Russian officials.
    Apparently, the Obama administration wanted to leave plenty of ammunition for leakers to keep hot the theme that Trump and his allies are connected to Moscow.

    "U.S. allies, including the British and the Dutch, had provided information describing meetings in European cities between Russian officials — and others close to Russia's president, Vladimir Putin — and associates of President-elect Trump, according to three former U.S. officials who requested anonymity in discussing classified intelligence," The Times reports. "Separately, U.S. intelligence agencies had intercepted communications of Russian officials, some of them within the Kremlin, discussing contacts with Trump's associates."


    It is unclear if the "associates" were Trump campaign officials.
    After the disclosure that Sessions had talked to the Russian ambassador twice, Democrats and some Republicans called on Sessions to recuse himself in investigations of Russian connections to the Trump campaign.
    But diGenova said the bigger story is the ongoing war of leaks between entrenched federal employees, loyal to Obama, and the new Trump White House.

    "[This] confirms former Obama administration officials are in fact disclosing and discussing classified information with the press," said diGenova.

    http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/f...s-cia-leakers/

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    Good hope they start naming names maybe it goes all the way to lery

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