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    Starting around the 1 hour, 6 minute mark . . .

    http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=23503087

    Lowe was clear that this was merely a guess, that he didn't feel great about it and that he could easily be playing for the Spurs next season. Simmons sounded more assured and went Clippers, Lakers, 76ers, while saying 76ers could make the best offer.

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    Kawhi tbh...

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    What can the Lakers possibly offer that the spurs would want.

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    Leonard thread

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    So tired of talking heads speculating based on absolutely nothing.

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    Nothing new being added to the conversation here.

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    What can the Lakers possibly offer that the spurs would want.
    Nothing good really. Ingram is a pretty polarizing prospect, it seems. Ball has fit issues with Murray and,l his dad is 10x worse than Kawhi's Uncle, in terms of distraction, and behind the scenes drama.

    Kuzma is decent and Randle is good but they also don't have much draft assets and they would probably be late 1st rounder's anyways.

    Clippers have Harris and the 12th and 13th picks, that is the beginning of a trade package but needs more.

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    Why would they trade him to any team in the West? Pretty sure they would take less to send the autistic er to the other conference.

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    The Lakers can offer 2 things SA wants (although one is unlikely): Some young players with decent upside (Ingram/Kuz/Ball - Randle is likely out since he’s due a larger contract) & ability to eat bad deals (Pau/Mills).

    Depends on what SA wants but getting Ingram/Kuz + a pick + maybe dumping Pau without having to give up an asset may be the best deal since SA will have a ton of immediate cap space with Kawhi’s current 19M going out along with Pau’s money and getting much, much less money coming back.

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    do not want lakers’ trash.

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    The Lakers can offer 2 things SA wants (although one is unlikely): Some young players with decent upside (Ingram/Kuz/Ball - Randle is likely out since he’s due a larger contract) & ability to eat bad deals (Pau/Mills).

    Depends on what SA wants but getting Ingram/Kuz + a pick + maybe dumping Pau without having to give up an asset may be the best deal since SA will have a ton of immediate cap space with Kawhi’s current 19M going out along with Pau’s money and getting much, much less money coming back.
    That laker package flat sucks. They’re NEVER taking Ball in any deal. I’d rather the Spurs take the Clips package, with a decent young SF, and two lottery picks than sift through Jim Buss and Kupchacks trash pile of mistakes.

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    I agree, but I’m saying what LA has. Ingram/Kuz + 25th pick + eating Pau’s money might appeal more to SA than Harris + 12th + 13th and having to use an asset to dump Pau or Mills.

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    LAL would be foolish to go after him now. Get Paul George and keep your good young players. Clippers make more sense and seem desperate to make a deal.

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    That laker package flat sucks. They’re NEVER taking Ball in any deal. I’d rather the Spurs take the Clips package, with a decent young SF, and two lottery picks than sift through Jim Buss and Kupchacks trash pile of mistakes.
    I could see them setting up a deal where they get Ball and move him for further assets... Especially if they had the second deal pre-arranged.

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    Ingram wouldn't be that bad. He's what, like only 20 still? Hes a much better offensive player than Kawhi was at that age. Ingram, Kuz, and Randle would be solid, imho. I think PopaGOAT would get the most out of those young guys just like Stevens is out of his.

    Never going to replace Kiwi's defense though and won't be a serious threat to GS or even Houston probably.

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    lol they're not going to send all 3

    plus randle will be stupid expensive

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    Bill Simmons default take is always that a superstar will sign in LA or Boston. That’s the extent of his analysis.

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    What can the Lakers possibly offer that the spurs would want.
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    Ingram wouldn't be that bad. He's what, like only 20 still? Hes a much better offensive player than Kawhi was at that age. Ingram, Kuz, and Randle would be solid, imho. I think PopaGOAT would get the most out of those young guys just like Stevens is out of his.

    Never going to replace Kiwi's defense though and won't be a serious threat to GS or even Houston probably.
    Randle is likely out. He’s a free agent and due money.

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    Bill Simmons default take is always that a superstar will sign in LA or Boston. That’s the extent of his analysis.
    Better than cowherd

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    They'd be stupid to play hardball and not just dangle all three of them if they are serious about getting PG+Kawhi/LeBron.

    edit: nevermind I thought Handle had 1 more year left on rookie deal

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    I agree, but I’m saying what LA has. Ingram/Kuz + 25th pick + eating Pau’s money might appeal more to SA than Harris + 12th + 13th and having to use an asset to dump Pau or Mills.
    I see your point, but supposedly Mills is enough of a positive player that it wouldn't necessarily take an asset to get rid of his contract. His deal is hardly unfriendly to a team nowhere near the cap. I will admit to not having looked at which specific teams will have cap space, though.

    Is it possible to waive and stretch Pau's salary now? If I understand right, he is due $22.8M guaranteed over the next two years ($16.8M this year, $6M next), so the stretch would be over 5 years (twice the remainder of the contract plus one year). That's only $4.6M per year against the cap, a $12.2M savings for this year.

    What free agents are worth pursuing with cap space this summer? Another thing I haven't looked at, usually I wait for writeups between the Finals and the draft.

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    LAL would be foolish to go after him now. Get Paul George and keep your good young players. Clippers make more sense and seem desperate to make a deal.
    There has literally been no indication that the Clippers are "desperate" to make any deal. Simmons knows nothing about the Clippers and is, in fact, a huge Clippers hater despite owning season tickets.

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    I see your point, but supposedly Mills is enough of a positive player that it wouldn't necessarily take an asset to get rid of his contract. His deal is hardly unfriendly to a team nowhere near the cap. I will admit to not having looked at which specific teams will have cap space, though.

    Is it possible to waive and stretch Pau's salary now? If I understand right, he is due $22.8M guaranteed over the next two years ($16.8M this year, $6M next), so the stretch would be over 5 years (twice the remainder of the contract plus one year). That's only $4.6M per year against the cap, a $12.2M savings for this year.

    What free agents are worth pursuing with cap space this summer? Another thing I haven't looked at, usually I wait for writeups between the Finals and the draft.
    I think Mills is a positive enough to where they wouldn’t have to give up an asset to move him but who knows. You can waive a player any time, just makes no sense to with Pau and won’t happen. If Rudy/Danny opt in then cap space isn’t really possible.

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    There has literally been no indication that the Clippers are "desperate" to make any deal. Simmons knows nothing about the Clippers and is, in fact, a huge Clippers hater despite owning season tickets.
    They lost Blake Griffen, Chris Paul and have no face for the team. Their season tickets sales will plummet with no draft hope in sight. There is no literal “desperation”, but I can see them doing whatever it takes to get the Kiwi.

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