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If it hits as Cat 4, it will be the most northern Cat 4, due to rising sea temps moving northward.
btw, there is already one Florence thread
In 2012, North Carolina legislators passed a bill that barred policymakers and developers from using up-to-date climate science to plan for rising sea levels on the state’s coast. Now Hurricane Florence threatens to cause a devastating storm surge that could put thousands of lives in danger and cost the state billions of dollars worth of damage.
The hurricane, which is expected to make landfall on Friday, is shaping up to be one of the worst storms to hit the East Coast. Residents of North Carolina’s Outer Banks and mainland coasts have already been ordered to evacuate. President Donald Trump declared a state of emergency in both North and South Carolina, and a Federal Emergency Management Agency administrator said that the Category 4 hurricane will likely cause “massive damage to our country.”
And the rise in sea levels, experts say, is making the storm surge worse.
Sea level rise is a direct consequence of global warming; the warming of the ocean has resulted in thermal expansion and melted ice sheets and glaciers that are causing the oceans to rise. Since 1950, the sea level has risen 6.5 inches ― a number that sounds small but has actually had major consequences across the country.
“Sea level rising, simply put, makes every coastal flood deeper and more destructive,” said Ben Strauss, CEO of Climate Central, a climate change research organization that has published dozens of studies about rising sea levels and the risks of ignoring the problem. “Ignoring it is incredibly dangerous.”
“It only takes a few extra inches of water depth to be the difference between a ruined floor and no damage, or a ruined electrical system and just a ruined floor,” Strauss said. “Floods tend to be a great deal more destructive and costly than homeowners anticipate.”
Sea level rise can also affect the severity of hurricanes, said William Sweet, an oceanographer at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. “If you compared storm surge heights from the same storm at the same location over several decades, the surge would be higher ― assuming no change in flood defenses ― because of sea level rise,” Sweet said.
But in North Carolina, lawmakers chose to ignore the threats. A panel of scientists on the state Coastal Resources Commission issued a dire warning in March 2010, estimating that the sea levels along the state’s coast would rise 39 inches over the next century. Conservative lawmakers and business interest groups feared the report would hurt lucrative real estate development on the state’s coast and sought to undermine it. A lobbying group committed to economic development on the coast accused the panel of “pulling data out of their hip pocket.”
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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0162f4731da0e
If it hits as Cat 4, it will be the most northern Cat 4, due to rising sea temps moving northward.
btw, there is already one Florence thread
but then princess couldn't have her own thread
I'm surprised you have a problem with this being that you start 5 threads a day about a movie instead of posting it on the actual movie thread.
LMAO. I would expect more from the Political Forum than the Club.I'm surprised you have a problem with this being that you start 5 threads a day about a movie instead of posting it on the actual movie thread.
Besides...if I post in the movie thread, I can't be sure that everyone gets to see the review.
All you guys that want to blame this on global warning sign in.
RG and Boo so far.
strawman imo
its not to say "this hurricane wouldnt have happened were it not for GW"... but its fair to say GW can exacerbate its effect due to sea level increases
Democratic Socialist randomguy wants to spread his wealth to those people that are effective
forgot those idiots that said it I do not need insurance
Climate Change Denial Strongly Linked To Right-Wing Nationalism
“Two strong groups have joined forces on this issue – the extractive industry, and right-wing nationalists.
The combination has taken the current debate to a much more dramatic level than previously, at the same time as our window of opportunity is disappearing.”
Hultman and his research colleagues show
the connections between conservatism, xenophobia, and climate change denial,
many of the right-wing nationalist parties in Europe now have climate change denial as one of their most important issues.
“Around 80 percent of all energy bought and sold in the world is oil, coal, or gas.
The world’s economy runs on this type of energy, which is destroying our habitat at the same time.
This makes climate science’s findings problematic, because it means that many in Sweden – and in other countries which use these resources to maintain their lifestyle –
need to change their way of life, and
many of the most powerful companies in the world will have to change their business models.
https://scienceblog.com/502885/clima...g-nationalism/
iow, the planet is ed and un able, for profit
Resistance to GW research can also lead to bad policy (such as unsafe developments or proper preventative measures being ignored).
It looks like Kosmic Parasite's heavy drug taking has really fried his brain.
He used to make some sense, but now he's just a reactionary robot.
So Boo, did Global Warming cause this potential cat 4 Hurricane to hit North Carolina?
I called it.
Hitler ruined the environment?
Was this actually the 'Final Solution'
NOAA's data and predictions would strongly disagree with the "Coastal Resource Commissions" 39" finding and indeed it looks like they just pulled that number out of thin air. At NOAA's estimate of 1/8" per year it would be more like 12" in 100 years. Not saying that it is insignificant but a lot of the resistance to climate change predictions are caused by common sense reactions to massively exaggerated claims by proponents.
Limbaugh added: "I want to share a headline with you here from CNBC: 'Florence Could Hit With a Punch Not Seen in More Than 60 Years.'
“Really? What was going on 60 years ago that caused such a 'massive punch.'"
And Limbaugh warned the media was getting set to blame President Donald Trump for the storm.
Not what I said at all.
I don't blame the storm on GW. That is stupid.
I am blaming the state legislature, for putting profits over people and safety, that decided to actively ignore the science, because they found it inconvenient for their ty donors' bottom lines.
Along the way, we get to deal with the ecological and human disasters caused by more failed Republican party policies.
A party you still think isn't as ty as it is in reality. I guess we all get our delusions.
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NOAA's data and predictions would strongly disagree with the "Coastal Resource Commissions" 39" finding and indeed it looks like they just pulled that number out of thin air. At NOAA's estimate of 1/8" per year it would be more like 12" in 100 years. Not saying that it is insignificant but a lot of the resistance to climate change predictions are caused by common sense reactions to massively exaggerated claims by proponents.
http://blogs.cuit.columbia.edu/culr/...ouse-bill-819/A controversial law in North Carolina, known as House Bill 819 (S.L. 2012-201), bans state and local agencies from basing its coastal policies on scientific models indicating an accelerating rise in sea level in favor of historical linear predictions. The law further mandates that the Coastal Resources Commission (CRC) and the Division of Coastal Management do not define sea-level change for regulatory purposes prior to July 1, 2016. Additionally, the law directs the CRC to refine its study no later than March 31, 2015 with a scope not to exceed 30 years.[1] While supporters of the bill argue sea level rise should be based upon historical trends and ask for additional scientific studies, ultimately, this bill ignores crucial scientific evidence and has the potential to harm North Carolinians on the coast.
"massively exaggerated claims by proponents."
the most pessimistic models have proven to be insufficiently pessimistic, iow, NOT exaggerated
but of course you rightwingnutjob assholes don't GAF about facts or science.
try to back up THAT claim...
Isn't this the moment someone says, bend over - I'll show you a review!
https://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2011/...PDF/H819v5.pdf
years of unrestricted development followed.
Bad, Republican, policies.
How can you joke when Flo is about to flood the south east waters with pig crap and Ebola?
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