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    This is actually getting very interesting...

    Article.

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    Fantasy vs. Reality

    In God we trust. All others pay cash that isn't fresh off the presses.

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    What's that now...

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    What's that now...
    What's what?

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    Union bashing is just part of the VRWC's bigger plan of bashing all of labor (the labor they haven't yet or can't get overseas), going back to St Ronnie sanctioning union-busting by busting the ATCs.

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    So Boutons, WHEN are you moving to Norway?

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    This is getting entertaining indeed.

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    Despite Public Perception, Government Workers Aren't Living Large

    Though the media often reports on eye-popping, six-figure salaries of government officials, such as school superintendents and other political appointees, most public-sector workers don't do nearly as well. Typically, they earn about 6% less than workers in the private sector.

    The average salary of a member of the American Federation of State County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), the largest union representing government workers, is about $45,000, according to Kerry Korpi, the union's director of research and collective bargaining. Data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics shows the median salary of a U.S. worker at $43,640. The average AFSCME member collects a pension of about $19,000 a year.

    http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/me...ivin/19848851/

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    Boutons...it's real simple.

    It's a free country. If they don't want to work in the public sector they don't have to.

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    Koch Industries Slashed WI Jobs, Helped Elect Scott Walker, Now Orchestrating Pro-Walker Protest

    Wisconsin’s newly elected Republican Gov. Scott Walker is facing a growing backlash over his attempt to cut pay and eliminate collective bargaining rights for public employees in his state. Although Walker is claiming his power grab is an attempt to close a budget gap, the budget “crisis” was engineered by Walker as soon as he got into office. As Brian Beutler reported, half of the budget shortfall comes from Walker’s own tax cuts for businesses and other business giveaways enacted in January.

    A number of the big business interests standing with Walker are beneficiaries of his administration’s tax giveaways. But the greatest ally to Walker is the dirty energy company Koch Industries. In response to the growing protests in Madison, Koch fronts are busing in Tea Party protesters to support Walker and his union-busting campaign. Last night, MSNBC’s Ed Schultz reported on the involvement of Club for Growth and the Koch-financed Americans for Prosperity in the pro-Walker protest scheduled tomorrow.

    http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/18/...rty-wisconsin/

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    Enrich and protect the corps, the citizens.

    That's how Repug/conservative America rolls.

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    So what activity for profit is not "dirty," at least for those of you in the asylum?

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    Boutons...it's real simple.

    It's a free country. If they don't want to work in the public sector they don't have to.
    The govt didn't have to make the deals..I guess breaking contracts now is going to be legal.

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    So what activity for profit is not "dirty," at least for those of you in the asylum?
    False equivalence much?

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    Looks like now the "Tea Party" is getting involved...SHOCKER!!!

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    I like how privatizing social security is more dangerous than trillion dollar pension plans to be paid for by a bankrupt government lulz

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    delete dubble post
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    It's way past time that American workers starting fighting back in the vicious class war being waged against them, as workers have started to do in the ME.

    Egypt’s protests were a denunciation of neo-liberalism and the political suppression required to impose it.

    These policies included privatisation of public assets, opening up to foreign investment, 'streamlining' public services, eliminating trade regulations, leaving prices to 'market forces' and encouraging the private sector to play an ever larger role in the running of the state. This new policy orientation, noted Abdelazim, 'effectively confined the state to judicial, legislative and security - rather than economic - issues.'
    Sound familiar? As it turn out in the States, security means endless war and nation building in other countries, judicial means shredding the Bill of Rights and an abandonment of the rule of law, and legislative means staggering tax cuts for the wealthy and corporate rule.
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    It's time to put an end to Public Sector Unions. The country is going broke and can't afford to pay these outrageous costs.

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    It's time to put an end to Public Sector Unions. The country is going broke and can't afford to pay these outrageous costs.
    Shouldn't people have the liberty to collectively bargain?

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    Shouldn't people have the liberty to collectively bargain?
    Not when their wages are being paid by taxpayers.

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    It's way past time that American workers starting fighting back in the vicious class war being waged against them, as workers have started to do in the ME.
    Hah... the military would start shooting Americans in a second.

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    Not when their wages are being paid by taxpayers.
    What does that have to do with anything? Do govt workers lose their liberties because they're paid through tax dollars?

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    Hah... the military would start shooting Americans in a second.
    I take some offense to that statement. We arent all mindless zombies ya know.

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    What does that have to do with anything? Do govt workers lose their liberties because they're paid through tax dollars?
    I believe the point was made in another thread that, ideally, unions are meant to counter the greed of corporations. There's a certain level of job security when you're a state/federal employee that isn't there when you're just a cog in the private sector.

    While I'd agree that ANY worker in ANY sector should have a way to voice their opinions as part of an organized body when asking for reasonable work conditions according to their occupation, there's a ferociousness that these federal workers seem to be lashing out with when they're so easy to replace considering all the people with degrees that don't have jobs. There's a lot of problems in our ins utions and I refuse to believe it's because some workers simply want collective bargaining agreements in place... output is output, and it needs to be recognized before any other demands are met. What about the demands of our ins utions by the tax payers? The hyperbole about this being an assault on unions is asinine. I wonder how much the "union leaders" lose out on membership dues if the budget plan goes through...

    Everyone is struggling, but those with federal jobs should be grateful they aren't working midnight shift as a cleaning woman at an hourly motel. If they're still pissed about something while the systems around them continue to fail on their watch, then 'em. 'em in the ass and kick them out of the house so someone else can do the job right.

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