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    Harriet Meirs withdraws Just breaking on the TV:

    Harriet Meirs has withdrawn her name from nomination to the Supreme Cour

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    I Got Hops Extra Stout's Avatar
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    Looks like Brownback and Graham won this round.

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    The only reason they did it today was because they know indictments are coming and they wanted all the negative things out of the way as soon as possible. If indictments are handed down, we already know the publicity of that would be.

    Then if Miers withdraws next week after the indictments, it wil prolong and add to an already very troubled administration, at least that's what Gov. Bush and his pals believe, so their strategy is have Miers withdraw now in the morning because when the indictments come out later today or tomorrow, her withdrawal won't be as BIG a deal.

    Bush, the best at spinning.

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    The only reason they did it today was because they know indictments are coming and they wanted all the negative things out of the way as soon as possible. If indictments are handed down, we already know the publicity of that would be.

    Then if Miers withdraws next week after the indictments, it wil prolong and add to an already very troubled administration, at least that's what Gov. Bush and his pals believe, so their strategy is have Miers withdraw now in the morning because when the indictments come out later today or tomorrow, her withdrawal won't be as BIG a deal.

    Bush, the best at spinning.
    Well, with the indictments coming down, the Bush White House needs some friends. Having his own party pissed off at him when the ish hit the fan could have made things even uglier.

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    Miers Withdraws as Supreme Court Nominee
    By TERENCE HUNT, AP



    KRTHarriet Miers was Bush's pick to replace Sandra Day O' Connor.


    WASHINGTON (Oct. 27) -- Harriet Miers withdrew her nomination to be a Supreme Court justice Thursday in the face of stiff opposition and mounting criticism about her qualifications.

    President Bush said he reluctantly accepted her decision to withdraw, after weeks of insisting that he did not want her to step down. He blamed her withdrawal on calls in the Senate for the release of internal White House do ents that the administration has insisted were protected by executive privilege.

    "It is clear that senators would not be satisfied until they gained access to internal do ents concerning advice provided during her tenure at the White House -- disclosures that would undermine a president's ability to receive candid counsel," Bush said. "Harriet Miers' decision demonstrates her deep respect for this essential aspect of the cons utional separation of powers -- and confirms my deep respect and admiration for her."

    Miers' surprise withdrawal stunned Washington on a day when the capital was awaiting news on another front -- the possible indictment of senior White House aides in the CIA leak case.

    Miers notified Bush of her decision at 8:30 p.m. Wednesday, according to a senior White House official who said the president will move quickly to find a new nominee.

    In her letter dated Thursday, Miers said she was concerned that the confirmation process "would create a burden for the White House and our staff that is not in the best interest of the country."

    She noted that members of the Senate had indicated their intention to seek do ents about her service in the White House in order to judge whether to support her nomination to the Supreme Court. "I have been informed repeatedly that in lieu of records, I would be expected to testify about my service in the White House to demonstrate my experience and judicial philosophy," she wrote.

    Reaction to the Withdrawal

    ''Harriet Miers' decision demonstrates her deep respect for this essential aspect of the cons utional separation of powers and confirms my deep respect and admiration for her.''

    -- President Bush, on Miers' decision to withdraw her Supreme Court nomination

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    Sources: AP, Reuters

    "While I believe that my lengthy career provides sufficient evidence for consideration of my nomination, I am convinced the efforts to obtain Executive Branch materials and information will continue."

    Miers' nomination has been under withering criticism ever since Bush announced her selection on Oct. 3. There were widespread complaints about her lack of legal credentials, doubts about her ability and assertions of cronyism because of her longtime association with Bush.

    The nomination drew fire across the political spectrum and caused a rebellion among the conservative core of Bush's supporters who doubted her qualifications and wanted a nominee who they felt would be a reliable vote against abortion, affirmative actions and other hot-button issues.

    On Capitol Hill, there was meager support among Republicans for Miers and her nomination appeared in serious trouble.

    In a letter on Wednesday, Sen. Arlen Specter, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, sought public assurances that Miers would show no favoritism toward Bush if confirmed to the Supreme Court.

    Most recently she has been Bush's White House counsel. Bush said that with her withdrawal, she would remain as counsel. He did not indicate when he would name a successor.

    "My responsibility to fill this vacancy remains," Bush said in a statement. "I will do so in a timely manner."

    Before Bush chose Miers on Oct. 3, speculation focused on Miers and two other Bush loyalists: Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, Bush's longtime friend who would be the first Hispanic on the court; and corporate lawyer Larry Thompson, who was the government's highest ranking black law enforcement official as deputy attorney general during Bush's first term.

    Other candidates mentioned frequently included conservative federal appeals court judges J. Michael Luttig, Priscilla Owen, Karen Williams, Alice Batchelder and Samuel Alito; Michigan Supreme Court justice Maura Corrigan; and Maureen Mahoney, a well-respected litigator before the high court.


    10-27-05 09:36 EDT

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    The only reason they did it today was because they know indictments are coming and they wanted all the negative things out of the way as soon as possible. If indictments are handed down, we already know the publicity of that would be.

    Then if Miers withdraws next week after the indictments, it wil prolong and add to an already very troubled administration, at least that's what Gov. Bush and his pals believe, so their strategy is have Miers withdraw now in the morning because when the indictments come out later today or tomorrow, her withdrawal won't be as BIG a deal.

    Bush, the best at spinning.
    WTF does this have to do with spinning anything? They got a terrible reaction to her nomination regardless of any indictments being handed down. Maybe she realized she wasn't going to cut the mus v. the Senate and wanted to save herself the ing humiliation.

    Oh, no...but that wouldn't have ANYTHING whatsoever to do with anything. It's all SPINSPINSPINPSPIN.


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    SA210 apparently would have preferred she remain the nominee.

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    WTF does this have to do with spinning anything? They got a terrible reaction to her nomination regardless of any indictments being handed down. Maybe she realized she wasn't going to cut the mus v. the Senate and wanted to save herself the ing humiliation.

    Oh, no...but that wouldn't have ANYTHING whatsoever to do with anything. It's all SPINSPINSPINPSPIN.

    Well, it is spin... kind of.

    Republican Senators conjured up this idea of her withdrawing in order to protect executive privilege. It was seen as a way for President Bush to back out of this mess without losing face.

    Bush had to back down or else risk an all-out war with his own party, at a time when his White House already is under siege

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    I see the "convenience" of it ... but I never saw her making it past the Senate to begin with, which could only be humiliating for her. I don't think she is stupid enough not to have made that realization either, which wouldn't have made that decision very difficult.

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    WTF does this have to do with spinning anything? They got a terrible reaction to her nomination regardless of any indictments being handed down. Maybe she realized she wasn't going to cut the mus v. the Senate and wanted to save herself the ing humiliation.

    Oh, no...but that wouldn't have ANYTHING whatsoever to do with anything. It's all SPINSPINSPINPSPIN.


    I plainly said that it was a tactic, to not look as bad as they would if she withdrew after the indictments. Yea, she would've faced humiliation, but the timing is what I'm talking about. But you wouldn't buy that would you, because when has Bush ever mislead us or lied, right?

    Don't get so angry about the truth. This is why they did it TODAY, early in the morning in fact to make sure they got it out before any indictments are handed down. When the indictments come down, there is no withdrawal to look forward to because she already did it. It's classis Bush PR that they're known for.

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    When was she supposed to do it? You guys would have found a way to spin the intent of the timing whichever way it suited your paranoia.

    " "

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    Well, I never said she was supposed to do it at a certain time or not, i'm just saying why Bush is having her do it this morning. That's all.

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    Yeah, the White House really should spread out the bad news so that political cartoonists don't have to decide which issue to lampoon.

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    I don't give a damn about spin. Miers was not qualified to be a Supreme Court justice and should have never been nominated.

    Nevertheless, for you spinners, the scenario that has played out is the one that was first proposed (almost to the detail) last Friday when Charles Krauthammer proposed it in his column.

    http://www.scotusblog.com/movabletyp...he_3.html#more

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    Well, I never said she was supposed to do it at a certain time or not, i'm just saying why Bush is having her do it this morning. That's all.



    What would be your complaint if she did it this afternoon or tomorrow morning or next week? That they were trying to drop another "bomb" to deflect attention away from all of the indictments, impeachments and executions that are inevitably coming out this morning?

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    The Bush Administration is on the ropes. I wish it was the Summer of '06, however. With that little time perhaps the democrats could find a way to not screw things up. However, with over a year to go before the elections, I'm confident they will find a way to things up!

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    Well, obviously she won't be doing it next week or tomorrow. In this situation I can't explore "if" because Gov. Bush has mislead and lied to the country so much, that he is not to be trusted in anything he says or does. That's logical, not paranoia.

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    Well, obviously she won't be doing it next week or tomorrow. In this situation I can't explore "if" because Gov. Bush has mislead and lied to the country so much, that he is not to be trusted in anything he says or does. That's logical, not paranoia.
    Clasic example of how SA210 covers his/her ass in ALL situations!

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    Well, I'm 0 for 1 in my predictions...

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    When was she supposed to do it? You guys would have found a way to spin the intent of the timing whichever way it suited your paranoia.

    " "
    Damn, are you really that much into Bush that you can't even see this move for what it is. Or course this was a political move!!!

    Timing is everything with this administration....and their time is running out!

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    Mrs.Useruser666 SpursWoman's Avatar
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    Damn, are you really that much into Bush that you can't even see this move for what it is. Or course this was a political move!!!
    There's only one person I'm that "in" to and he isn't married to someone else.

    For what it is, what? Correcting a bad decision? Should she just go ahead and go through with it just to be rejected by the Senate (which I believe she would have anyway) and cost the taxpayers more time and money? You guys will come unglued no matter what or when they do or do it, but I'd just prefer she step down now anyway. Whatever, I don't GAF about anything else other than that I never thought she'd be confirmed in the first place, and NO is that good to put myself through that kind of humiliation, had I been her.

    Timing is everything with this administration....and their time is running out!
    Eventually they all do...it's called "Term Limits". And unless Democrats get their together and spend more time coming up with a plan than criticizing the plans of others, it'll be Republicans again in '08, no matter how much they have ed up. And you can thank those with at udes not dissimilar to your own.
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    "Eventually they all do...it's called "Term Limits". And unless Democrats get their together and spend more time coming up with a plan than criticizing the plans of others, it'll be Republicans again in '08, no matter how much they have ed up. And you can thank those with at udes not dissimilar to your own." .................................................. .................................................. ........The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!

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    rofl at all of you who said she was qualified and would make it

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    Well I wanted Janice Brown anyway... good news.

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    When was she supposed to do it? You guys would have found a way to spin the intent of the timing whichever way it suited your paranoia.

    " "


    If she did it after the indictments these "paranoid" individuals would have come up with some other "clever" reasoning.

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