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Certain Spur fans will continue to be in denial, tbh.
Homepage lookin good, though.
https://www.spurstalk.com/spurs-vind...igns-clippers/
The news of Kawhi Leonard signing with the Clippers doesn't help the Spurs on the court -- or make their trade with the Raptors look better -- but it helps make the entire situation make more sense.
Certain Spur fans will continue to be in denial, tbh.
Homepage lookin good, though.
For those who didn't read Timvp's article the most interesting tidbits:
1. In the summer of '14 the Spurs were worried that he wanted to be in LA due to the influences around him.
2. Spurs were even worried in the summer of '15 that #2 wouldn't even resign with the Spurs for the max.
Meh, I don't buy it. PATFO ed up with his injury and their lack of aggressiveness in surrounding him with talent. That's my take anyway. Thanks for the write up.
We have the team that did everything you think the Spurs should've done in the Raptors.
They got nothing for him.
Was the max offered before the trade demand? Did someone in the fo call him a pussie? Was the pau and mills signings a sign of regression? Did uncle want a fo position?
What does it matter now?
He's where he always wanted to be.
Kawhi was always LA-bound. At one point or another. Was never going to be a Spur-lifer.
kawhi. What a got
I posted this in another thread, and I may be wrong, but this has been my take on it in quotes copy and pasted from the other thread.
"I too, (while being incensed with anger) said that after the Spurs re-signed Patty Mills and Pau Gasol, that if I was Kawhi, I'd ask for a trade to the Lakers as that is nowhere near good enough talent to waste that money on. Looking back at it, I still think that the Spurs pissing away that money on scrub players and not trying to retain Dedmon and Simmons (who Kawhi apparently liked), plus the injury thing, I think the combination of that put Kawhi off the Spurs. If they had not signed those two guys to that amount of money, and gotten him whatever players he wanted and whatever he perceived as a more compe ive team (even if he thought that was Dedmon and Simmons over Patty and Pau, and even if the Spurs disagreed, they still should have done it to appease him), I think he may not have started to consider leaving. I could be wrong, but I do agree with your stance as it's pretty similar to mine."
I don't know if he was looking to leave before then like Timvp says, but yeah, I do think the Spurs could have done a little bit more to try and keep him, but if he truly did want to go home before 2017, I'm much happier (still not that happy) that he chose the Clippers. I also didn't realize that they were the San Diego Clippers, so that makes even more sense that he went with a team that was more truly his home team.
I also wonder if it's true that he didn't like the Lakers when he was growing up? I recall reading that he was an Iverson fan (so was I back them up until about 2003 when he kind started being really selfish), and Melo fan (explains the cornrows), and that he wasn't a huge fan of the Lakers. I didn't know if he just said that because he's on the Spurs at the time or not, so that was making me think if he really wanted to sign with the Lakers over the Clippers the past few days, or if it was simply just because Lebron was there and if he would have chosen the Lakers over the Clippers if Lebron wasn't there. Also, at least he has the balls to go against these guys rather than team up with them.
Now how does that make sense? His last season with us we were in the conference finals and up big in game one when he got a cheap shot with the ankle injury. If he stayed healthy we might have been in the finals that year. So no that does not make any sense. We had a great team.
If spurs would have kept him, build around him an LOB mentality team while offering the supermax he would have choose to stay
Mills and Gasol were crap signings but the Spurs were still contenders if #2 played. I'm tired of hearing this bs narrative of the supporting caste being weak. Spurs had LMA who has been a top 5 bigman in the NBA for the last few years. They had multiple perimeter defenders in Green,Murray,Kyle Anderson. I still believe the Rudy Gay addition was an upgrade over Simmons depth wise. Manu was still a good sixth man off the bench.
lol, spurs wasn't serious enough about competing and that why kawhi left
Nah he left because he wanted to be in LA.
It eases the sting left by the whole process for the Spurs, Raps still traded DeMar and Jakob for an NBA le basically but it was short lived as Kawhi's a Clipper now. Raptors won a le but Spurs still have the players they traded for.
WHEN ZAZA HAPPENED HE MISSED ALMOST THE NEXT 7 MONTHS FROM MAY 15 2017 TO DEC 12 2017, THEN HE PLAYED THE NEXT 16 GAMES OFF AND ON, THEN HE NEVER PLAYED AGAIN FROM JAN 14 2018 UNTIL OPENING NIGHT FOR THE RAPTORS...OCT 17 2018...LAST GAME FOR SPURS HE WENT 19-8-4-4 IN 28 MINUTES...THE GUY LITERALLY DIDNT PLAY FOR ABOUT 13 MONTHS, AND HIS NUMBERS FOR HIS LAST SPURS GAME WERE ALRIGHT CONSIDERING "HE WAS HURT"....HE JUST DIDNT WANT TO PLAY FOR SA ANYMORE AND WANTED TO GO HOME...HE GOT BUTTHURT AND RAN HOME...PERSONALLY, ILL NEVER ROOT FOR THE GUY...SPURS FOR LIFE!!!
Why did he leave Toronto?
It doesn't matter what you or I think, I'm coming at it from the perspective of what I think Kawhi thought. If Kawhi thought those signings were terrible, and if he truly didn't think that the FO office was doing enough to surround him with a compe ive team, then that could have played a big part in him wanting to leave. Maybe he really did like Dedmon and Simmons a lot, and then when the Spurs let them go, that may have pissed him off. It doesn't matter what you and I thought about those decisions, it matters what Kawhi thought, or if he perceived it as a compe ive team. If the Spurs didn't bother asking him, or do as he wanted, then it's their fault they lost him. That is, if he didn't want out before then.
Yes-
Vindication against the Lakers that used all their media influence (ther's some neeed of anti trust television policy in that regard) and probably made "China tampering".
Vindication about the Raptor's behavior that wanted a legitimate chance at a le (that they effectively gained) and nontheless not only forced us to get what, in their wiew, was just their disgruntled and unwanted star, the last valuable of their bigs and an iperprotected pick...but forced us too in giving them Green and plus on paying them an extra 5 millions...
The vindication against n° 2 was to send him to a place he didn't want to go to and so doing let the world know how they dilliked him and his group and what kind of garbage behavior he and his group had...but now ther's some vindication in the fact that his choice confirm that the narrative of his group was in part false and unbeliavable and in part a fabrication...while two organizations like Spurs and Raptors made everything in their power to appease the will of n° 2 and their group.
So, in more than one sense, I also frankly think that our organization has re-gained a lot of media credibility...expecially in the behavior about injuries (where we've always been considered extra cautious before the n° 2 drama) in front of other supposed "advanced" teams...
SA has DDR. TOR has a ring. OKC has 5 1st picks. Not exactly a win for the Spurs...
great post
Patfo are classy as ; they knew what this situation had become and never went in like they could have!! They are the best for so many reasons......... San Antonio was offered trash for Kawhi from the Clippers because they knew he was coming there anyway; both organizations decided to play the long game! We excel at the the long game fellas; LBJ/magic is sick!!!
Yep. Looking at that list, the Spurs didn't even come freaking close to getting a win out of it. The only good thing for us Spurs fans is he didn't go to the Lakers. That makes us feel better as fans, but that really has nothing to do with the Spurs getting any kind of win out of the trade. Not even a small win IMO.
Before the trigger was pulled on the Demar trade, if you told me the Clippers were offering their two first round draft picks from last season's draft plus Tobias Harris, I would have taken that over Demar any day of the week.
I'm not a fan of Demar at all. If he could actually shoot the 3 ball, even just a little bit, I'd be more at ease with him, but during the season it frustrated me so much seeing him take less three pointers than he took the in prior couple of seasons where he started upping his 3 point volume, it was just so frustrating to watch because it killed the spacing and offense.
I'm also surprised that Chip didn't try and rework that shot of his. I said throughout the season, it looks like that shot is working for him at mid-range distance, but anything further out, the accuracy with his shooting style goes down the toilet big time. The accuracy with his shooting form is piss poor the further out he goes. As a shooter, IMO, he'll never be a great shooter outside of mid-range with his current shooting form (it works for him a couple of steps inside the arc, but he really does throw up some bricks past the free throw line and beyond the three point line with it). I could be wrong and Chip may be able to tweak it a touch, but those are my thoughts on his current shooting form.
Last edited by Ice009; 07-06-2019 at 04:44 AM.
Agreed.im not pissed kawhi left im upset with the package we bent over and recieved
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