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    They could have saved money on the testing and just used SpursTalk


    Your super liberal and super conservative relatives might all have one thing in common.

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    the overton window has shifted so much its hard to even describe what is considered extreme anymore

    obama was called a socialist for increasing the highest marginal tax rate by like 2%

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    the overton window has shifted so much its hard to even describe what is considered extreme anymore

    obama was called a socialist for increasing the highest marginal tax rate by like 2%
    Now, he's a rightwing neocon for not getting the public option passed when he tried but there were nowhere enough votes for it

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    Now, he's a rightwing neocon for not getting the public option passed when he tried but there were nowhere enough votes for it
    among other things. foreign policy, immigration, bailouts, tax policy

    he also could have pressed harder for the public option. they dropped it to get the 60 votes needed to beat a filibuster (appealing to joe lieberman for the 60th vote), but they also could have passed the public option through reconciliation which only would have needed 50.

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    among other things. foreign policy, immigration, bailouts, tax policy

    he also could have pressed harder for the public option. they dropped it to get the 60 votes needed to beat a filibuster (appealing to joe lieberman for the 60th vote), but they also could have passed the public option through reconciliation which only would have needed 50.
    Lieberman endorsed McCain, spoke at the 2008 Republican National Convention, and campaigned against Obama but yeah why didn't Obama just tell him what you do he would have listened. It's almost like some of were there remember what happened and don't need to be fed biased Vox summaries of it

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    Immigration he passed DACA and let a lot of people but vetted thoroughly so he was about perfect to me imo. There are options besides either open borders and building walls and moats but progressives but pretend there arent. Any border security is racist lmao talk about polarization

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    Now, he's a rightwing neocon for not getting the public option passed when he tried but there were nowhere enough votes for it
    They were two votes short: Ben Nelson and Joe Lieberman.

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    Lieberman endorsed McCain, spoke at the 2008 Republican National Convention, and campaigned against Obama but yeah why didn't Obama just tell him what you do he would have listened. It's almost like some of were there remember what happened and don't need to be fed biased Vox summaries of it
    like i said, it could have passed through reconciliation with 50 votes instead of needing 60 including lieberman

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    Immigration he passed DACA and let a lot of people but vetted thoroughly so he was about perfect to me imo. There are options besides either open borders and building walls and moats but progressives but pretend there arent. Any border security is racist lmao talk about polarization
    daca was fine, but pushed through executive order. there should have been more comprehensive immigration reform earlier in his presidency when he had congress on his side.

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    They were two votes short: Ben Nelson and Joe Lieberman.
    Those are the only two I think the came forward but they represented the more moderate group of senators. I think Nate silver kind of oats and they were like 40 firm Vyes vote or something before and that was a regular water before even considering reconciliation which would have made it lower iirc. I'm not 100% certain but that's the way I remember it. In order to get 60 votes in the Senate unfortunately needed you like 15 Joe Manchins. I think we even had two senators from Arkansas or some

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    Lieberman is Low key one of biggest piece of democrats in history. You put up with some from guys like Joe manchin because it's West Virginiabit Lieberman was in ing connecticut.

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    Those are the only two I think the came forward but they represented the more moderate group of senators. I think Nate silver kind of oats and they were like 40 firm Vyes vote or something before and that was a regular water before even considering reconciliation which would have made it lower iirc. I'm not 100% certain but that's the way I remember it. In order to get 60 votes in the Senate unfortunately needed you like 15 Joe Manchins. I think we even had two senators from Arkansas or some
    I thought it was mainly those two. Back when Obama got elected he actually had support even from senators like Grassley for the health plan he ran on (eg RomneyCare + public option) until the teabaggers began their autistic screeching and ushered in the era of obstructionism.

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    Those are the only two I think the came forward but they represented the more moderate group of senators. I think Nate silver kind of oats and they were like 40 firm Vyes vote or something before and that was a regular water before even considering reconciliation which would have made it lower iirc. I'm not 100% certain but that's the way I remember it. In order to get 60 votes in the Senate unfortunately needed you like 15 Joe Manchins. I think we even had two senators from Arkansas or some
    i read the atlantic article too, and that was "firm" yes votes. you can still push and prod people to ultimately gain their support especially when you have the whole party behind it, unless its a john mccain situation

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    I thought it was mainly those two. Back when Obama got elected he actually had support even from senators like Grassley for the health plan he ran on (eg RomneyCare + public option) until the teabaggers began their autistic screeching and ushered in the era of obstructionism.
    I think they represented other moderates who were too scared to say out loud iirc. A lot of politicians are pussies so they won't say in public like all these people who on Trump in private and never say a word in public.

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    i read the atlantic article too, and that was "firm" yes votes. you can still push and prod people to ultimately gain their support especially when you have the whole party behind it, unless its a john mccain situation
    What Atlantic article? Maybe you could he convinced some Lieberman was a lost cause. Once he came out it was over

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    obama's far left policies and his "new era of change" was much more bark than bite. him, nancy, uncle joe, feinstein etc are now your dying breed of moderate dems and now you have the alt-left like bernie, talib, omar etc

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    obama's far left policies and his "new era of change" was much more bark than bite. him, nancy, uncle joe, feinstein etc are now your dying breed of moderate dems and now you have the alt-left like bernie, talib, omar etc
    Hopefully the WOKE side of the right-wing or "Groypers" will take over the GOP. That would be lovely. Get rid of all the pro-Israel Zionist trash on both sides of the aisle.

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    yeah hopefully the most xenophobic part of the right takes over!

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    yeah hopefully the most xenophobic part of the right takes over!
    Gotta get our priorities straight ma niga! Get rid of all the pro-Israel Zionist traitors, stip them of their power and a lot of good things will happen. We can settle our differences later

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    Extreme political views are one thing - the tendency to proselytize non stop like some here and others elsewhere do when everyone else already knows their positions, that's something else completely.

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    TGY is really Hitler.

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    Hopefully the WOKE side of the right-wing or "Groypers" will take over the GOP. That would be lovely. Get rid of all the pro-Israel Zionist trash on both sides of the aisle.
    so now you're left with charlottesville 2017 becoming everyday american society... good work

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    Rabbi talks truth abour Hitler and the Jews

    https://www. ute.com/video/r3NQ0Gi3Wknn/

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    "talks truth"

    link to hitler abolishing interest in germany?

    you're so ing gullible tbh, you believe everything you hear in any video

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    My extremist right wing views are mainstream Democratic views from the 90's.

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