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    Guess who's back. TheWriter's Avatar
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    Some 55,000 early votes were cast, I'd expect big numbers for todays vote as well.

    So, are you voting?

    SAY YES TO THE ACCD BOND!

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    Dr. Pepper Johnny_Blaze_47's Avatar
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    Absentee. Last week.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Absentee will end up being higher than the regular turnout, although I wouldn't doubt it if Prop 2 drives attendence at the polls.

    That spells bad news for the bond. People don't want to fund school, they just want the s in check.

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    Dr. Pepper Johnny_Blaze_47's Avatar
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    Absentee will end up being higher than the regular turnout, although I wouldn't doubt it if Prop 2 drives attendence at the polls.

    That spells bad news for the bond. People don't want to fund school, they just want the s in check.
    It's that same thought that makes me believe I may have to call deadline on the paper tomorrow night without having the other elections called.

    That is gonna be a .

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    Guess who's back. TheWriter's Avatar
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    This Is Just For Texas, Correct? Maybe Not, I Dunno
    The election that I speak of is for the San Antonio area. I'm sure there are many many other November elections going on.

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    Guess who's back. TheWriter's Avatar
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    That spells bad news for the bond.
    I don't know. The bond has gotten a lot of support for groups that said no to it last time.

    I hope its passes. Those colleges need expansion.

    They freakin' predict an enrollment of 69,000 by 2010 for the ACCD.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    People come out to vote against things, not for them.

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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    Just came back from voting.

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    Hint Hint ClintSquint's Avatar
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    Early voting rules.

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    Dr. Pepper Johnny_Blaze_47's Avatar
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    People come out to vote against things, not for them.
    True, but I think that the ACCD pleased many a person with the revised bond issue and that will stick in the minds of voters.

    I've got little doubt that the bond passes today.

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    Manure Ginobili Mixability's Avatar
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    People come out to vote against things, not for them.
    exactly! that gets to me!

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    Stand-up philosopher CharlieMac's Avatar
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    True, but I think that the ACCD pleased many a person with the revised bond issue and that will stick in the minds of voters.

    I've got little doubt that the bond passes today.
    Tht's what changed my vote.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    If the ACCD bond does pass, and I don't think it is nearly as likely as many of you, it will be by a narrow margin. People hate tax increases, and they are very difficult to pass. The same people that came out to vote against it last time aren't going to show up with the same amount of support FOR it.

    We'll see.

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    Manure Ginobili Mixability's Avatar
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    If the ACCD bond does pass, and I don't think it is nearly as likely as many of you, it will be by a narrow margin. People hate tax increases, and they are very difficult to pass. The same people that came out to vote against it last time aren't going to show up with the same amount of support FOR it.

    We'll see.
    I'm not a very political person or anything, but what bothers me is people complain about things they don't have, but when a tax increase comes along to pay for those necessities, they vote against it, and then next year, the complaints start again.

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    The Wright Stuff
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    What are we voting on??

    Seriously, I don't keep up with this kind of stuff.

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    Eh, Fuck It. easjer's Avatar
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    Absentee will end up being higher than the regular turnout, although I wouldn't doubt it if Prop 2 drives attendence at the polls.

    That spells bad news for the bond. People don't want to fund school, they just want the s in check.
    I hadn't planned on it, but you just reminded me I need to. Damn it.

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    Dr. Pepper Johnny_Blaze_47's Avatar
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    What are we voting on??

    Seriously, I don't keep up with this kind of stuff.
    Albeit it's from the ACCD, here's the gist.

    The Alamo Community College District (ACCD) Board of Trustees unanimously accepted the recommendations of a broad-based Citizens’ Committee for a $450 million capital improvements program, and has called for a bond election November 8, 2005.

    Here are some pertinent facts about the bond issue:

    * Nursing programs. The bond package will enable the ACCD to expand its nursing and related programs to address the critical shortage of nurses and other medical support technicians in San Antonio by tripling the existing capacity in nursing and allied health programs at San Antonio College and St. Philip’s College

    * Funds distribution. The money from the bond will go toward the repair of older facilities and infrastructure and technology upgrades at the four established colleges, based on projected student enrollment, plus the construction of a much needed northeast college at the intersection of Loop 1604 and Kitty Hawk

    * Oversight. An oversight committee of citizens will be created to monitor the finances associated with the new bond package

    * Growth. Enrollment at the ACCD colleges has grown by 41 percent during the past six years, to more than 50,000 students. ACCD's credit enrollment is projected to grow to 68,800 students by 2010

    * Affordable quality. ACCD colleges have been providing affordable, quality higher education in the San Antonio area for more than 100 years

    * Economic impact. The ACCD plays a key role in the economy of the region; 80 percent of all jobs now require a post-high school education

    Based on current financial market conditions, the bond issue, if approved, will cost taxpayers an increase of 3˘ per $100 valuation over the current tax rate of 10.7˘ per $100 valuation. On a house valued at $100,000, this would mean an increase of $30 per year, from $107.50 to $137.50, or $2.50 per month.

    Property owners who are 65 or older, or disabled, would not be affected by the increase.
    Notice that last line at the end...just a little extra sell by the ACCD.

    Also, Danyo, it's NIMBY-ish.

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    Roll The Dice Hook Dem's Avatar
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    People come out to vote against things, not for them.
    It's all a matter of perspective and where you are in life. Doesn't everyone vote from their perspective? You are young and a professional student. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you live in an apartment? Maybe if you were a property owner, you wouldn't be so quick to raise property taxes. Just a thought!

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    Dr. Pepper Johnny_Blaze_47's Avatar
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    It's all a matter of perspective and where you are in life. Doesn't everyone vote from their perspective? You are young and a professional student. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you live in an apartment? Maybe if you were a property owner, you wouldn't be so quick to raise property taxes. Just a thought!
    True, but the reason I continue to vote in Bexar (instead of Hays in which a good City Council race has enamored the city of San Marcos along with some local bond issues) is because of my parents (and technically me) who own a house in the city and would pay those taxes.

    Search the archives and I was all for the bond in its previous form (Manny and I had long discussions over that one) because the benefit to the community as a whole was worth the extra tax money s ed out.

    We wrote a staff editorial on the same subject, though, Hook Dem, for today's paper.

    A local resident wrote to the San Marcos Daily Record last week that students shouldn't be able to vote in the local elections because they didn't have property here and wouldn't keep the homeowners thoughts in mind (also because a student is running for that City Council spot against the in bant local businessman and a State professor who has lived here for over 30 years).

    I would have voted for most of the bond issues locally [and not necessarily for the student, but the locals seem to think that the lot of us (since he's a student) would have voted for him blindly (and I don't doubt that some did), I might have gone for the in bant had I had a vote here].

    Essentially, we said in the staff editorial that the argument in that letter to the SMDR was flawed since the students contribute so much to the local economy and it failed to take into account those people who do not own land in San Marcos, but are there of their own accord and not related directly or indirectly to the university.

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    just want the s in check.


    yeppers

    and i don't we should have to pay school taxes unless we have kids in school

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    yeppers

    and i don't we should have to pay school taxes unless we have kids in school
    of course... because we all know we only want uneducated people running this country in thirty years. And stupid doctors taking care of us in our old age. We get what we pay for, right?

    VOTE NO on Prop 2 and YES for ACCD

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    Too weird to live, and too rare to die. midgetonadonkey's Avatar
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    I'm not registered to vote in Bexar County. Actually, I probably wouldn't vote even if I was registered.

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    of course... because we all know we only want uneducated people running this country in thirty years. And stupid doctors taking care of us in our old age. We get what we pay for, right?

    VOTE NO on Prop 2 and YES for ACCD




    thirty years? bush can't even speak much less put a sentence together and a doctor almost let me die just a few months ago - it's already happening honey

    let us get married legally and file income taxes jointly - then we'll talk
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    thirty years? bush can't even speak much less put a sentence together and a doctor almost let me die just a few months ago - it's already happening honey

    let us get married legally and file income taxes jointly - then we'll talk
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    Can I come to the wedding?


    of course - you can be my best girl

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