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    Otto Porter Jr for Aldridge and one of the following (in order of preference for the Spurs): 2nd round pick, 1st round pick or Lonnie Walker.

    I don't know what it would take for the Bulls to consider the trade, but I think I would be willing to part with any of those assets.

    Why would the Spurs consider this trade?

    Otto Porter is pretty much the protypical player they are missing at that 4 spot. Porter Jr checks all these boxes:

    -6'8"
    -defensive minded player who is versatile.
    -good 3pt shooter.
    -positive impact player on both side of the ball.
    -and the best trait yet: he's only 27 years old. He fits this young core window like a glove. For real, I don't think there's a better fit out there.

    Porter's one big question mark is pretty much a non-issue for the Spurs: his price tag. He makes Aldridge money (another reason why the trade is pretty much tailor made) and he probably would want to keep making that kind of money. Thankfully for the Spurs, they can allow to overpay a bit for him in the next couple of years. The Spurs can offer Porter a contract that not many other teams around the league can. That should give PATFO confidence about retaining him past this season.

    Why would the Bulls consider this trade?

    The Bulls have two options:

    -If they want to compete to make the playoffs, they can just keep Aldridge. They have no real starting center and LA would be an immediate upgrade on that department.

    -If they go tank mode, they can just buy out Aldridge, in which case their gain would be the pick or a promising young player in Lonnie.

    Either way, win/win for them.

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    Otto Porter Jr for Aldridge and one of the following (in order of preference for the Spurs): 2nd round pick, 1st round pick or Lonnie Walker.

    I don't know what it would take for the Bulls to consider the trade, but I think I would be willing to part with any of those assets.

    Why would the Spurs consider this trade?

    Otto Porter is pretty much the protypical player they are missing at that 4 spot. Porter Jr checks all these boxes:

    -6'8"
    -defensive minded player who is versatile.
    -good 3pt shooter.
    -positive impact player on both side of the ball.
    -and the best trait yet: he's only 27 years old. He fits this young core window like a glove. For real, I don't think there's a better fit out there.

    Porter's one big question mark is pretty much a non-issue for the Spurs: his price tag. He makes Aldridge money (another reason why the trade is pretty much tailor made) and he probably would want to keep making that kind of money. Thankfully for the Spurs, they can allow to overpay a bit for him in the next couple of years. The Spurs can offer Porter a contract that not manybother teams around the league can. That should give PATFO confidence about retaining him past this season.

    Why would the Bulls consider this trade?

    The Bulls have two options:

    -If they want to compete to make the playoffs, they can just keep Aldridge. They have no real starting center and LA would be an immediate upgrade on that department.

    -If they go tan mode, they can just buy out Aldridge, in which case their gain would be the pick or a promising young player in Lonnie.

    Either way, win/win for them.
    The only way we do that and send a pick or LW is if we are also sending Rudy and getting Lauri in the deal.

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    The only way we do that and send a pick or LW is if we are also sending Rudy and getting Lauri in the deal.
    Why would the Bulls do that though?

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    Why would the Bulls do that though?
    I'm not sure they would but, if they didn't want to pay Lauri this summer it's a way for them to extract some value now..

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    Is not Porter a bench player for the bulls?

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    Still one of the worst posters when it comes to trade scenarios I see

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    Still one of the worst posters when it comes to trade scenarios I see
    Turning Aldridge into Porter is possibly the best we can do. The are you talking about?

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    Lol I wouldn’t do Aldridge for Porter straight up. And your wanna throw in Lonnie and a first???

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    Lol I wouldn’t do Aldridge for Porter straight up. And your wanna throw in Lonnie and a first???
    Give a not re ed explanation of why you wouldn't do Aldridge for Porter straight up.

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    Lol I wouldn’t do Aldridge for Porter straight up. And your wanna throw in Lonnie and a first???
    Also, no, I don't want to give up a 1st AND Lonnie. I would be willing to give up a 1st OR Lonnie.

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    Not sure why you think Chicago would want to trade for LMA. They've spent top 10 picks on Wendell Carter, Lauri Markkanen, and Patrick Williams. LMA would just eat into their minutes/development.

    And not sure why San Antonio should give up a draft pick for Porter, a player with injury issues and an expiring contract who isn't going to vault this team into championship contention. You'd be selling your future just to be an early exit in the playoffs.

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    Not sure why you think Chicago would want to trade for LMA. They've spent top 10 picks on Wendell Carter, Lauri Markkanen, and Patrick Williams. LMA would just eat into their minutes/development.
    1) to improve at the center position. They are in the hunt for a playoffs spot.
    2) to get something out of Porter, who, if they don't trade, will lose for nothing. If they manage to get a 1st for Porter, they wouldn't think twice.

    And not sure why San Antonio should give up a draft pick for Porter, a player with injury issues and an expiring contract who isn't going to vault this team into championship contention. You'd be selling your future just to be an early exit in the playoffs.
    Porter might not vault the Spurs into contention, but he puts them one piece away. As currently constructed, the Spurs are missing 2 very important pieces. A 3 and D, 6'8" forward, and a true 1st option. Porter adresses that first need as well as anybody in the league.

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    This trade has a few pluses and a few minuses, but if you tweak it up a bit well.......
    Aldridge, Rudy Gay, and a 2021 #2 pick for
    Otto Porter & Lauri Markkanen

    Why do this ? Well Porter and Aldridge pretty much cancel each other out. Neither one is coming back to their team next season. They are both kinda washed up and looking for new diggs.
    So its essentially Markkanen for Rudy and a #2. Does it make much sense ? Well Rudy is nice vet to have but wont be getting 14.5 million next year from us or any one else. Thats a plus for the Bulls if they want to sign him. They also get a 2nd rounder for some new young talent.
    Markkanen will be more expensive, probably in the 14 to 19 million range which the Bulls dont seem to want to pay since there was no extension. I think the Spurs would pay that price since they have been looking for that same type of player before -- Bertans and Samanic, tall guys who can shoot three pointers although not much for rebounding.
    If you step back a bit, its not that bad a deal for either side and could possibly help both clubs for the playoffs or in the longer term. I this Chicago even originally drafted Aldridge before he was traded to Portland. Its just something to think about.

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    Lol I wouldn’t do Aldridge for Porter straight up. And your wanna throw in Lonnie and a first???
    why?

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    Turning Aldridge into Porter is possibly the best we can do. The are you talking about?
    trading for a bench player of a worse team somehow improves the Spurs? And you want to give them a pick or Lonnie on top of it? I’m curious what your explanation for this „ultimate trade idea“ is

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    Turning Aldridge into Porter is possibly the best we can do. The are you talking about?
    Don't get why we'd have to move Walker or a possible lottery pick for a bench player. Just have the deal be straight-up.

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    Porter Jr.'s extensive injury history (back being the latest) has seemingly diminished his mobility and rendered him somewhat gimpy and more of a part time player.

    Not that he wouldn't be a great fit and they shouldn't be all over it, but Walker IV or a 1st shouldn't be required and isn't worth it either way, when as you said, they can outbid almost every contender or aspiring one in free agency.

    Also, let's be real: There's no reason to think Aldridge would be amendable to playing for the Bulls and we all know the Spurs' primary concern will be "doing right by him".

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    trading for a bench player of a worse team somehow improves the Spurs? And you want to give them a pick or Lonnie on top of it? I’m curious what your explanation for this „ultimate trade idea“ is
    This is a typical "good player not giving a on a bad team" scenario. I remember folks ing about getting Diaw because he was sucking on the Bobcats.

    Also, it isn't like Porter is really sucking. 10 and 5 in 40% 3 pt shooting. All around positive impact going by metrics. And only 27 years old. Is not like he's a washed up player with his best years behind him.

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    Don't get why we'd have to move Walker or a possible lottery pick for a bench player. Just have the deal be straight-up.
    I don't think the Bulls would go for that, but if it happens, all the better.

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    I don't think the Bulls would go for that, but if it happens, all the better.
    You really think the Bulls value an expiring contract on a bench player so much that they'd only trade him for a first?

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    I don't think the Bulls would go for that, but if it happens, all the better.
    Both teams would essentially be swapping expiring's.

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    “Death, Taxes, and the Spurs not giving up assets for something they can get for free the following offseason”

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    Porter might not vault the Spurs into contention, but he puts them one piece away. As currently constructed, the Spurs are missing 2 very important pieces. A 3 and D, 6'8" forward, and a true 1st option. Porter adresses that first need as well as anybody in the league.
    So we're going to give up a first round pick--at worst a mid round pick, and possibly a late lotto pick--for a half year rental of an oft-injured Otto Porter...and then hope that he wants to re-sign with us this offseason?

    He'll be 28 in June, and he hasn't had a fully or even remotely close to fully healthy season since he was 24. We're going to throw big money at him to keep him around, and give up a first round pick to do so?

    The best thing this team does is draft and develop talent. Giving up a first round pick for Otto Porter would be a short-sighted gamble.

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    Not sure why you think Chicago would want to trade for LMA. They've spent top 10 picks on Wendell Carter, Lauri Markkanen, and Patrick Williams. LMA would just eat into their minutes/development.
    To make things full circle? They drafted LaMarcus Aldridge, yet promptly traded him for Tyrus Thomas and Viktor Khryapa in a move that probably set the Bulls back a decade.

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    This is a typical "good player not giving a on a bad team" scenario. I remember folks ing about getting Diaw because he was sucking on the Bobcats.

    Also, it isn't like Porter is really sucking. 10 and 5 in 40% 3 pt shooting. All around positive impact going by metrics. And only 27 years old. Is not like he's a washed up player with his best years behind him.
    Well, actually, he might be washed up at this point. He's had a lot of significant injuries...

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