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    http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10...ng-terrorists/


    Palin Accuses Obama of 'Palling Around With Terrorists'
    Sarah Palin takes a swipe at Barack Obama for his ties to Bill Ayers, founder of a 1960s radical group.

    FOXNews.com

    Saturday, October 04, 2008



    Sarah Palin speaks at a rally at Saint Louis University after the vice presidential debate Thursday. (AP Photo)

    Sarah Palin, using some of her strongest language to date to question the character of the Democratic presidential nominee, accused Barack Obama on Saturday of "palling around with terrorists."

    Palin, speaking at a closed fundraiser in Colorado, was referencing Obama's ties to Bill Ayers, a founder of the 1960s radical group The Weather Underground. That relationship was examined in a front-page article in The New York Times on Saturday.

    "This is not a man who sees America as you see America, and as I see America," Palin said. "Our opponent, though, is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect -- imperfect enough that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country. Americans need to know this. ... I think, OK we gotta get the word out. This is in fairness to the electorate we gotta start telling people what the other side represents."

    The Times article she mentioned concluded that Obama and Ayers did not appear to be close.

    Obama spokesman Hari Sevugan released a statement in response accusing McCain's campaign of launching "Swiftboat-like attacks in hopes of deflecting attention from the nation's economic ills."

    He said the Times article made clear that Obama and Ayers were not close, "much less 'pals'."

    Ayers' group took credit for bombings, including nonfatal explosions at the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol four decades ago.

    Ayers now is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. He and Obama live in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood and served together on the board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based charity that develops community groups to help the poor. Obama left the board in December 2002, and he has denounced Ayers' past activities.

    The McCain campaign has indicated it will step up its attacks on Obama's character and judgment in the final month of campaigning.

    Palin, for instance, said on Friday that some of Obama's statements on America's foreign policy should disqualify him from being president.

    "Some of his comments that he has made about the war that I think may -- in my world -- disqualifies someone from consideration as the next commander in chief," Palin told FOX News. "Some of his comments about Afghanistan and what we are doing there, supposedly just air-raiding villages and killing civilians. That's reckless."

    She was referring to Obama's remarks last summer about Afghanistan in which he said: "We've got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops that we're not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians which is causing enormous problems there."

    Republicans lashed out at him at the time, though the Associated Press published a fact-check shortly afterward that showed, by their count at the time, Western forces had killed 286 civilians in the country, compared with 231 killed by militants in 2007.

    The escalated effort to question Obama's character dovetails with TV ads by outside groups questioning Obama's ties to Ayers, convicted former Obama fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko and Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

    McCain adviser Nancy Pfotenhauer followed up on both of Palin's remarks Saturday, citing Obama's Afghanistan comments and ties to Ayers in questioning his judgment.

    "Apparently Senator Obama has no problem associating with someone like that, and somehow thinks that this unrepentant terrorist is rehabilitated," she told FOX News.

    Stench of desperation? You betcha!

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    its called the truth.

    you lie with the dogs you gets fleas... obama never thought as a community organizer anyone would ever give a if he listened to the hatred spewed by his rev or if he hung out with terrorists

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    its called the truth.

    you lie with the dogs you gets fleas... obama never thought as a community organizer anyone would ever give a if he listened to the hatred spewed by his rev or if he hung out with terrorists
    Oh well hang your hat on this non existent relationship...

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    Nobody has explained why this could possibly matter.

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    Oh well hang your hat on this non existent relationship...
    It's hardly non-existent and, despite having written two -- yes two! -- autobiographies, Barak Obama has yet to commit in writing anything about what he is claiming to be his most important "executive" experience -- his time at the Chicago Annenburg Challenge.

    Why do you think that is?

    Me? I think it's because he would either 1) have to lie about his activities during those years or 2) demonstrate his association with William Ayers and other radical activists is closer than American voters would tolerate in a prospective president.

    But, I'd still like to hear why you think he avoided his CAC years when penning his autobios.

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    Nobody has explained why this could possibly matter.
    HOw much longer before a 'he's a closet muslim' ad comes out?

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    HOw much longer before a 'he's a closet muslim' ad comes out?
    They don't need an ad. Campaigns don't use mass media for those kinds of smears.

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    I hope Obama comes back with Charles Keating undeniably being one of McCain's close friends. Kind of relevant now with what this nation is going through.

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    It's hardly non-existent and, despite having written two -- yes two! -- autobiographies, Barak Obama has yet to commit in writing anything about what he is claiming to be his most important "executive" experience -- his time at the Chicago Annenburg Challenge.

    Why do you think that is?

    Me? I think it's because he would either 1) have to lie about his activities during those years or 2) demonstrate his association with William Ayers and other radical activists is closer than American voters would tolerate in a prospective president.

    But, I'd still like to hear why you think he avoided his CAC years when penning his autobios.

    Or he didn't know the guy real well.

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    Or he didn't know the guy real well.
    Well, at least you've stepped away from "non-existent" but, I wasn't talking about the fact that he didn't mention his relationship with Ayers in the books... , he didn't even talk about his time at the CAC.

    What's up with that? I mean, now it's his most important executive experience, according to him...yet, it doesn't get a write up in either of his two -- I just can't get over the fact he's written two ing autobiographies already -- autobiographies.

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    Not to mention he seems ashamed of the influence Saul Alinky's ideologies have had on him and can only write of his mentor "Frank," using his first name because, well, he's a communist too.

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    Well, at least you've stepped away from "non-existent" but, I wasn't talking about the fact that he didn't mention his relationship with Ayers in the books... , he didn't even talk about his time at the CAC.

    What's up with that? I mean, now it's his most important executive experience, according to him...yet, it doesn't get a write up in either of his two -- I just can't get over the fact he's written two ing autobiographies already -- autobiographies.

    Sorry, he might non have known him which would make it a non existent relationship. Sorry Yoni now matter how hard you right wingers try you won't make this bull stick

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    Not to mention he seems ashamed of the influence Saul Alinky's ideologies have had on him and can only write of his mentor "Frank," using his first name because, well, he's a communist too.
    Can you find any proof of tis nonsense? I begining to think you and whott need zero proof to make olutlandish claims.. Oh well I am going to enjoy you having to call Obama Mr President

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    Sorry, he might non have known him which would make it a non existent relationship. Sorry Yoni now matter how hard you right wingers try you won't make this bull stick
    I'm still curious. Why did he not mention his CAC years (1995-2001) in his autobiographies?

    And why would he only refer to his mentor "Frank Marshall Davis" as "Frank," when he wrote of him at all?

    Just curious.

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    I'm still curious.

    Why would any of this matter?

    Just curious.

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    Can you find any proof of tis nonsense? I begining to think you and whott need zero proof to make olutlandish claims.. Oh well I am going to enjoy you having to call Obama Mr President
    Obama’s Communist Mentor

    Barack Obama and Bill Ayers: Stanley Kurtz Makes the Connection

    Obama's Alinsky Jujitsu

    None of which, of course, you'll hear from the MSM

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    I'm still curious. Why did he not mention his CAC years (1995-2001) in his autobiographies?

    And why would he only refer to his mentor "Frank Marshall Davis" as "Frank," when he wrote of him at all?

    Just curious.
    So you are going to make me prove an accusation that you've made up. What exactly are you accusing Obama of?

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    For Clinton and Obama, a Common Ideological Touchstone

    Here's one from the mainstream media but, they apparently thought the connection with Alinsky was a good thing and romanticize it.

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    I am going to wait for one ounce of solid proof that Obama ha more than passing relationship with Ayers. Of couse The Yonis of the world don't care whether it's true because they just want to win the election.

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    For Clinton and Obama, a Common Ideological Touchstone

    Here's one from the mainstream media but, they apparently thought the connection with Alinsky was a good thing and romanticize it.
    Obama was 23?

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    So you are going to make me prove an accusation that you've made up. What exactly are you accusing Obama of?
    1) I believe his relationship with William Ayers is deeper and more significant than he's admitted and for reasons he knows would be political suicide.

    2) I believe he has socialist -- bordering on Alinsky-inspired communist -- tendencies that will inform his policy-making as president and have already garnered him the le of most liberal politician on Capitol Hill.

    3) I believe he didn't mention his ties to Davis and Ayers (or Alinksy influences) for the simple fact he know it would doom him politically.

    There, that's what I'm accusing Barak Obama of.

    So, again, why do you think he failed to mention CAC in his two () autobiographies?

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    So? He wasn't 23 when he went to work for Ayers and he wasn't 23 when he wrote the autobiographies that pretty much ignore this period of his life.

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    So he's a communist who will bomb the Pentagon. He is a member of the CPUSA and has planted bombs in the past.

    Thanks.

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    So? He wasn't 23 when he went to work for Ayers and he wasn't 23 when he wrote the autobiographies that pretty much ignore this period of his life.
    He was 8 when the WU was planting bombs.

    It's all very important!

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    “I saw no evidence of a radical streak, either overt or covert, when we were together at Harvard Law School,” said Bradford A. Berenson, who worked on the Harvard Law Review with Mr. Obama and who served as associate White House counsel under President Bush. Mr. Berenson, who is backing Mr. McCain, described his fellow student as “a pragmatic liberal” whose moderation frustrated others at the law review whose views were much farther to the left.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us...%20%20LWzVGtPQ

    Oh noes!

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