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    He be better then James if he stays healthy

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    He also be a better teammate
    He will also never go on stage for Hilary Rodman Clinton

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    No pressure

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    I really wish people (especially a Spurs all-timer and influencer) would calm down on these expectations and pressure.

    Wemby is obviously an alien, but let's simmer down on these "All-Time" talks and let the kid make it to the playoffs first.

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    this video is over a year old

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    7 Championships min to get into that conversation.

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    7 Championships min to get into that conversation.
    LeBron doesn’t have 7 championships. LeBron doesn’t have 5 championships. Seems like the barrier is 4 les.

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    LeBron doesn’t have 7 championships. LeBron doesn’t have 5 championships. Seems like the barrier is 4 les.
    Whoever dubbed LeBron “King James” went to his head and self-proclaimed himself goat

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    7 Championships min to get into that conversation.
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    Needs a TON of work on the offensive end

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    LeBron doesn’t have 7 championships. LeBron doesn’t have 5 championships. Seems like the barrier is 4 les.
    MJ > LeBron

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    The point was the barrier to being “in the conversation”. I agree with you, BTW.

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    The point was the barrier to being “in the conversation”. I agree with you, BTW.
    Ah, makes sense!

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    I really wish people (especially a Spurs all-timer and influencer) would calm down on these expectations and pressure.

    Wemby is obviously an alien, but let's simmer down on these "All-Time" talks and let the kid make it to the playoffs first.
    Nah Vic will be fine. He's more than ready for it, he's asking for it. He sees it as a "duty".

    Any other kid, I'd agree.

    You can't control the effect Wemby had on people's imagination/dreams, we've never seen anything like that and even haters can't wait to see his evolution.

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    Whoever dubbed LeBron “King James” went to his head and self-proclaimed himself goat
    Didn't he call himself that in high school?

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    He's the best player I've seen since Jordan. He has every tool and looks like he has the clutch gene. Those are insane qualities to have at 20.

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    Whether he becomes the GOAT depends on:
    1) his health
    2) what type of team the spurs can build around him
    3) what the salary cap looks like and how the spurs manage it

    Jordan isn’t best ever because of his talents, there have been others just as good, just that the factors didn’t fall their ways. What happens if Krause yielded to Jordan’s demands? What happens if Jordan didn’t blossom at the time when the nba was exploding to a world wide game (magic and bird before him, dream team, Nike)? What if jordan played in the days when rules don’t cater to isolation plays? What if the bulls didn’t trade for Pippen?what if the bulls kept Oakley like Jordan wanted?

    Any of that happened and Jordan won’t be the goat.

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    Whether he becomes the GOAT depends on:
    1) his health
    2) what type of team the spurs can build around him
    3) what the salary cap looks like and how the spurs manage it

    Jordan isn’t best ever because of his talents, there have been others just as good, just that the factors didn’t fall their ways. What happens if Krause yielded to Jordan’s demands? What happens if Jordan didn’t blossom at the time when the nba was exploding to a world wide game (magic and bird before him, dream team, Nike)? What if jordan played in the days when rules don’t cater to isolation plays? What if the bulls didn’t trade for Pippen?what if the bulls kept Oakley like Jordan wanted?

    Any of that happened and Jordan won’t be the goat.
    There is so much wrong with this horse . Nobody was "just as good" as Jordan. There was a very small window where Barkley was nearly his equal. Pippen was an absolute dumpster fire without Jordan. When rules don't cater to isolation plays? They hard fouled him a dozen times a game in the playoffs. .

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    LeBron doesn’t have 7 championships. LeBron doesn’t have 5 championships. Seems like the barrier is 4 les.
    4 les he is not even the greatest Spur. The conversation is greatest of all time. The reason MJ>Lebron still the rings. If Lebron had 7 championships then you can have the conversation of greatest of all time.

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    I mean, he definitely has the potential to. When you have every basketball skill and otherworldly size, and the mental aspects of the game under control, then the ceiling is infinitely high. I guess the only other factor would be something like "clutch factor" or "killer instinct," but that usually comes with the mental aspects IMO.

    But also he needs to compile impressive career accolades, which depends on cir stances. Like somebody above mentioned, he needs to avoid serious injuries, and he needs to have good teams crafted around him for that to be possible.

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    Whether he becomes the GOAT depends on:
    1) his health
    2) what type of team the spurs can build around him
    3) what the salary cap looks like and how the spurs manage it

    Jordan isn’t best ever because of his talents, there have been others just as good, just that the factors didn’t fall their ways. What happens if Krause yielded to Jordan’s demands? What happens if Jordan didn’t blossom at the time when the nba was exploding to a world wide game (magic and bird before him, dream team, Nike)? What if jordan played in the days when rules don’t cater to isolation plays? What if the bulls didn’t trade for Pippen?what if the bulls kept Oakley like Jordan wanted?

    Any of that happened and Jordan won’t be the goat.
    Just a quick thought: Nike happened because of Jordan, not the other way around. They were a struggling company drowning in red ink when he signed.

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    There is so much wrong with this horse . Nobody was "just as good" as Jordan. There was a very small window where Barkley was nearly his equal. Pippen was an absolute dumpster fire without Jordan. When rules don't cater to isolation plays? They hard fouled him a dozen times a game in the playoffs. .
    Lebron at his prime was as good as Jordan in his prime. Bird, magic, shaq couldn’t been a goat if things fell right.

    If there was a time Barkley, who most people have him around top 20 all time, could be as good as a goat, even for a short period of time, it highlights how the goat really wasn’t as definitive based on skills as people make it out to be.

    Illegal defense favours isolations immensely.

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    Just a quick thought: Nike happened because of Jordan, not the other way around. They were a struggling company drowning in red ink when he signed.
    Fair point. I’m more about how well nike marketed him. Nike found gold with him, they can’t turn, say Charles shackleford into a star with all the marketing in the world, but with Jordan they were able to appeal him to the masses.

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