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    seems to be breaking news...not much info yet.

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    Link?

    Where did you hear this?

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    President Joe Biden is dispatching 1,500 soldiers to the Southern border to stem the surge of illegal immigrants that’s expected to follow the Thursday expiration of le 42, a pandemic-era public-health measure that allows Border Patrol to immediately expel illegal immigrants.

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    So much for open borders Brandon.

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    So much for open borders Brandon.
    Sounds like they will basically serve as travel agents.

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    Military personnel will do data entry, warehouse support and other administrative tasks so that U.S. Customs and Border Protection can focus on fieldwork, the officials said. The troops will not do law enforcement work and will be sent down for roughly 90 days, though their presence can be extended if necessary. The officials were not authorized to speak publicly about the request and spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity. It’s unclear when the troops would be deployed.
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    Sounds like they will basically serve as travel agents.
    Abbott and DeSantis already have that covered.

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    Abbott and DeSantis already have that covered.
    As does Homeland "Security". Convoys leaving daily. All aboard!

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    As does Homeland "Security". Convoys leaving daily. All aboard!
    CC is scared of convoys again.

    Evergreen.

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    CC is scared of convoys again.

    Evergreen.
    Again, Chump. Just a statement of fact. Why are you afraid of facts?

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    As does Homeland "Security". Convoys leaving daily. All aboard!
    what would you like to see happen?

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    seems to be breaking news...not much info yet.
    We have seen this dog and pony show before.

    DoD wants nothing to do with interacting with illegals or US citizens. DoD will claim they are freeing up thousands of CBP personnel and providing their personnel with DoD related skills - which will really be just "look busy work" than actual work.

    The work they will do is administrative at best and would be more effectively done by contractors rather than DoD personnel.

    Just optics and nothing more.

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    Again, Chump. Just a statement of fact. Why are you afraid of facts?
    I am not afraid of the fact you are afraid of convoys whenever you are told to be afraid of convoys.

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    what would you like to see happen?
    Pick a reasonable date in the near future...three weeks? A month? Put the word out with every means possible...we Re CLOSING our southern border. Don't bother coming north. We will NOT let you in and you might as well walk your ass back home. We have set up a remote online application process. Use it. Don't show up un announced and uninvited, we will NOT let you in.

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    Pick a reasonable date in the near future...three weeks? A month? Put the word out with every means possible...we Re CLOSING our southern border. Don't bother coming north. We will NOT let you in and you might as well walk your ass back home. We have set up a remote online application process. Use it. Don't show up un announced and uninvited, we will NOT let you in.
    that would be a violation of law. we're treaty bound to allow refugees into the US; also to consider their applications, regardless of the manner of entry.

    it's a human rights thing, you probably wouldn't understand.

    besides, the US Mexico border isn't closeable, nor would it be a good idea to do it: it would be too hard on business.

    my personal opinion here, but I think more immigration is objectively desirable, economically and demographically, regardless of the manner of entry. we need more young families in the US, period. there of course should be objective limits to that, but we're nowhere near a desirable replacement rate for US population.
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    Population experts say there is a surefire way to boost fertility rates: let in more immigrants. Migrants tend to be young and produce children at a higher rate than the native-born. But Texas, like the country as a whole, has experienced a decline in net international migration since 2016. Over the prior two decades, Glass said, the country was “saved by immigration.” (This helped boost the economy and keep Social Security and Medicare solvent.) But the end of legal in-country asylum seeking under Trump led to an immediate decline in the Hispanic birth rate, from approximately 2.1 in 2016 to 1.9 in 2020. “It’s pretty clear that immigration was propping up U.S. birth rates until the recent past,” Glass said. “And when that stops, the higher-than-average Hispanic birth rate created by recent migrants stops as well.” Without a steady flow of immigrants, she said, “we are an aging, low-fertility population.”

    https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/lawmaker-wants-certain-texans-to-have-more-babies/

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    More deportations, more detentions.

    Biden is tougher on immigration than Trump. Same was true of Obama.












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    Biden noticeably tougher than Trump on immigration, tbh.

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    my personal opinion here, but I think more immigration is objectively desirable, economically and demographically, regardless of the manner of entry. we need more young families in the US, period. there of course should be objective limits to that, but we're nowhere near a desirable replacement rate for US population.
    While it's true that stealing (or buying) other countries low skilled labor has always been a positive for the development of this country historically, why do you believe that will remain the case given the rate of advancement in technology/automation?

    As far as population rate, do you think it is possible to make up for the shortfall in birth rate by importing young adults from other countries? Why do you believe it is desirable to do so?

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    my personal opinion here, but I think more immigration is objectively desirable, economically and demographically, regardless of the manner of entry. we need more young families in the US, period. there of course should be objective limits to that, but we're nowhere near a desirable replacement rate for US population.
    Manner of entry matters because illegals (whether entry or overstaying Visa) are destined to a life of "hiding" and working under the table. We need them to be part of the system.

    Also border crossers (in Europe too) tend to be single males. Data illustrates areas with unbalanced male/female ratio have increased depression & crime.

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    https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/lawmaker-wants-certain-texans-to-have-more-babies/
    Instead could existing US citizens, particularly Whites be encouraged to have more children?

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