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    I'm guessing Birch and Langford are out along with Dieng. Maybe even McDermott. And how does the emergence of Branham affect Vessel? Does Graham get traded and what does our big man rotation look like next year? I'm guessing Jeremy moves to the small forward position if we get Webby

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    Way too early to know. Draft, trades, free agency can change a lot.

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    I think Birch, Langford and Dieng are likely gone. Dieng may stay in a front office capacity. The rest, who knows? Honestly think nearly everyone else will still be here, even KBD and Dougie, at least to start the season.

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    I’m curious to see how they approach our point guard issues. Depends who we draft of course, but if we don’t draft a point guard type, they might surprise us with some small moves. I don’t see much more to that than what happens at the next trade deadline, but even that is likely to be underwhelming with so many teams being mediocre and overextended. So yeah, probably not a lot of changes initially imo.

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    In continuity they trust, even during the tanking times.

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    I think Birch, Langford and Dieng are likely gone. Dieng may stay in a front office capacity. The rest, who knows? Honestly think nearly everyone else will still be here, even KBD and Dougie, at least to start the season.
    Birch is a strange case. They obtained him, knowing he was out for the season, but supposedly, they want to try to claim his insurance. He may stay on the roster for a while next year while they try to iron that out.

    Doug and Graham become ending contracts, and with the new CBA, that could be valuable as apron and double apron teams struggle to fill their rosters. They may be traded this summer, and I can't see either on the roster after the trade deadline in Feb.

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    Birch is a strange case. They obtained him, knowing he was out for the season, but supposedly, they want to try to claim his insurance. He may stay on the roster for a while next year while they try to iron that out.

    Doug and Graham become ending contracts, and with the new CBA, that could be valuable as apron and double apron teams struggle to fill their rosters. They may be traded this summer, and I can't see either on the roster after the trade deadline in Feb.
    The real question is how many seconds the Spurs can get for McBuckets and Graham. Seven?

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    Birch is a strange case. They obtained him, knowing he was out for the season, but supposedly, they want to try to claim his insurance. He may stay on the roster for a while next year while they try to iron that out.

    Doug and Graham become ending contracts, and with the new CBA, that could be valuable as apron and double apron teams struggle to fill their rosters. They may be traded this summer, and I can't see either on the roster after the trade deadline in Feb.
    When does the CBA come into effect?

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    I’m curious to see how they approach our point guard issues. Depends who we draft of course, but if we don’t draft a point guard type, they might surprise us with some small moves. I don’t see much more to that than what happens at the next trade deadline, but even that is likely to be underwhelming with so many teams being mediocre and overextended. So yeah, probably not a lot of changes initially imo.
    Point seems a position of less importance to the SAS than other teams. Not saying they'd go without, but if they have Branham, Sochan, Mamu, and others able to bring the ball up and initiate the motion offense, that may be all they need for now. Graham plays that role too, and then of course Jones.

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    same tank with whatever rookies we draft

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    Point seems a position of less importance to the SAS than other teams. Not saying they'd go without, but if they have Branham, Sochan, Mamu, and others able to bring the ball up and initiate the motion offense, that may be all they need for now. Graham plays that role too, and then of course Jones.
    It’s an interesting situation in that we have about five different people that could sort of fill-in, but it doesn’t feel like anyone’s really taking the job. Of course Jones is our best point guard but I would be surprised if they didn’t want to somehow eventually improve the talent at that position. But if we get a star at a different position to build around then it’s less of a need. So yeah, lots of options to where this goes with giving more time to our current players most likely, along with reality that Graham likely isn’t going anywhere.

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    same tank with whatever rookies we draft
    Nope. The tank is over. It was only on for Wemby. When there's a generational prospect, you know it a year out. There is no generational talent for 2024, so you're tanking for a 1/7 chance at what, exactly?

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    When does the CBA come into effect?
    I think this summer.

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    If the mediocrity and or parity of this season continues into next season, then we could sort of luck into the play in potentially, if just enough teams decide go for the tank at the tail end of the season, that’s a possible outcome for next season, but overall I still see us in the lottery.

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    It'll be interesting to see if any team views Tre as having similar value to his brother Tyus as a quality back up PG. I could definitely see some team offering him the MLE. Tyus will make $14 mil next year.

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    I don't see another tanking year. Pop was OK to take a chance at Wemby or another nice prospect but I don't see him, at that stage of career, going for another year of 4th quarter funky lineups to throw the game... You can also break younger guys' motivation and progression with consecutive tanking years, while you better take care of them considering the difficulty to sign marquee FAs, either to keep them or trade them for good return (see Murray and White)...

    The pieces are potentially there to build a somehow compe ive team next year specially with the state of the WC... Sochan, Vassell, Keldon (maybe traded), Tre, Zollins, Doug (maybe traded) a top 3 pick (hopefully) + cap + whoever will survive the bargain bin... I could watch this. Now you still need a star, wich you could get with Wemby basically year 1 (probably not with Scoot).

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    It'll be interesting to see if any team views Tre as having similar value to his brother Tyus as a quality back up PG. I could definitely see some team offering him the MLE. Tyus will make $14 mil next year.
    This board hates Tre Jones for some reason, but he's shaping up to be a nice player. When he's feeling good, he peppers the basket with floaters and attacks, he moves the ball around, can play pretty pesky defense, and his long range shot is starting to look better.

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    I don't see another tanking year. Pop was OK to take a chance at Wemby or another nice prospect but I don't see him, at that stage of career, going for another year of 4th quarter funky lineups to throw the game... You can also break younger guys' motivation and progression with consecutive tanking years, while you better take care of them considering the difficulty to sign marquee FAs, either to keep them or trade them for good return (see Murray and White)...

    The pieces are potentially there to build a somehow compe ive team next year specially with the state of the WC... Sochan, Vassell, Keldon (maybe traded), Tre, Zollins, Doug (maybe traded) a top 3 pick (hopefully) + cap + whoever will survive the bargain bin... I could watch this. Now you still need a star, wich you could get with Wemby basically year 1 (probably not with Scoot).
    To me it depends on defense. No one's really mentioned - as far as I know - that Pop is throwing full court and three-quarters court presses on teams to try them out. A nice thing about having so many young players is he can throw them at teams in waves. The team might have a pretty strong bench next year. At least an active one.

    One thing is that not only is the league not particularly great nowadays, but the superteam era has ended, in part because its players are aging. Phoenix might be the last of the breed (Durant/Paul/Booker) but they're no sure thing and won't be together for long.

    We in in a sub-era where star-lead teams aren't totally dominant. Partly this is because the stars themselves aren't really that great. You have your Jason Tatums and SGAs and Doncics, but they're so iso-heavy that they cannot dominate. Memphis is often better without Morant. Philadelphia, Denver, Clippers, aren't that great, whether because they are unbalanced teams or don't have enough talent. We're seeing teams do well without stars, like Utah and the current Nets. Not great, necessarily but pretty good.

    I'm personally not obsessed with landing a star. One or two might already be on the team, or will be coming up. Just concentrate on picking up good pieces, teach them how to play basketball. Actually play defense.

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    Yeah, part of me is excited about a very democratic team without a heliocentric ballhog/potential weed. We are already that team, just not good yet. Malaki and Jeremy should have long NBA careers. I agree about defense so Jarace and Black are solid if we don’t land high. Pop would need to atay the coach I think, but Becky would likely command respect as well.

    So as bad as things seem for the spurs right now, yeah, with the overall league being so mediocre while also being super extended with no draft picks, it really puts us in a pretty good spot relatively speaking

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    The real question is how many seconds the Spurs can get for McBuckets and Graham. Seven?
    I believe 2nd round picks actually become more valuable with the new CBA. Double apron teams don't have an MLE to spend on players, but 2nd round picks now receive there own exemption if I understand it correctly. I know someone will point it out if I a wrong.

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    It'll be interesting to see if any team views Tre as having similar value to his brother Tyus as a quality back up PG. I could definitely see some team offering him the MLE. Tyus will make $14 mil next year.
    His brother became a credible 3-point threat, which changed everything.

    I've said it ad nauseam, but small guards who can't shoot and aren't dynamic in any area of half court offense don't have much value, which is why he went 41st in the first place.

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    I believe 2nd round picks actually become more valuable with the new CBA. Double apron teams don't have an MLE to spend on players, but 2nd round picks now receive there own exemption if I understand it correctly. I know someone will point it out if I a wrong.
    iirc Chinook had a post about second round picks potentially being worth a lot more down the road if the CBA was changed in certain ways. I don't know if he envisioned this particular one, though.

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