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    https://www.spurstalk.com/spurs-horn...mmer-league-1/

    Fun way to start things off in summer league. Champagnie looks legit legit. Barlow was so good he made Kai Jones look like a foolhardy amateur.

    Good Times©

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    I think Wesley’s grade was generous to the point of charity. I lost count how many times he got his lunch eaten in the paint.

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    The three guys I wanted to see play together this summer, Wemby, Branham and Sochan, none of them played and the Spurs still cruised.

    Looks like we'll have to wait a few months to see Wemby and Sochan get together.

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    Should Champagnie get upgraded to A+ for making the #2 pick in the draft look like a chump until garbage time? Or do we already understand that Miller is going to bust?

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    Champ and Barlow impress me by the way they talk in interviews. They're so even keeled, like they've been here before, not getting too up, not getting too down. They know there is work to do but they're not flustered, but at the same time not surprised when they do well.

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    Should Champagnie get upgraded to A+ for making the #2 pick in the draft look like a chump until garbage time? Or do we already understand that Miller is going to bust?
    hopefully the former, need Miller to be good so we get Charlotte's pick

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    I would have given Sidy a B-. He didn’t fill up the stat sheet but I thought he impacted the game, especially on defense.

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    Impressive win without Wemby, Branham, and Sir’Jabari

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    I'd give Sidy a grade letter higher because it was his first game. I'd give Wesley a grade lower due to expectations.

    The silver lining with Wesley is that he carved out 8 points and 8 assists from that dumpster fire while playing decent defense with his feet.

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    Thx for grades.

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    Cissoko is going to be useful and sorry Miss Cleo not as a point guard.
    He gave Miller fits and is the right size to guard LeBron and Leonard. Useful

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    I think there's grading on play / performance, and grading on flashes (sorry, wrong word...Ugh moments / promise), where you're looking for improved microskills or abilities that you think make it more likely that someone will be able to have a role.

    Barlow and Champagnie were both good, and Barlow being able to be the best player on the floor whilst being 6 months younger than the #2 pick in this draft is good. Definitely likely to get a big boy contract if his play is like this for at least another game, either from us or another team looking for an asset).
    Sidy wasn't great, and his weaknesses are obvious, but the connective role player skills were there.

    I think with Blake, he gets super focused driving and probably works better with a floor spacing / pick and pop big - I think it gets him to play more under control and look to manipulate and pass out, rather than sprint in and hope for contact/ an easy offensive rebounding opportunity. He was bad though overall.

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    Don’t know how you watched Brown and come away thinking he’s a good two way candidate tbh

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    Cissoko is going to be useful and sorry Miss Cleo not as a point guard.
    He gave Miller fits and is the right size to guard LeBron and Leonard. Useful
    Yeah Sidy is a SF/PF - I have seen a lot of people have him as SG in there mock lineups but to me he is a big boy who can hang with SF and even deal with most PF.

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    Cissoko is going to be useful and sorry Miss Cleo not as a point guard.
    He gave Miller fits and is the right size to guard LeBron and Leonard. Useful
    He did some little things that stood out. There was a sequence when Miller grabbed rebound and Cissoko poked it out for a Champagnie put back. Also, when he harassed Miller into a bad shot but foul was called.
    Offensively, he had his moments with that no look pass and that dunk attempt.

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    , if this is Barlow going forward he's starting tbh.

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    Everyone was sleeping on Julian, guess nobody but a handful watched the last few games of the season. What he did was more scalable than Mamu. Barlow vs Mamu might be a camp battle to watch, Barlow was unrecognizable and making a case for that third big slot. Wes was fine I guess, he kept the offense chugging with that first step but this does not look like the leap he needed to show. Sidy is a two-way guy, the silver lining is his defense and playmaking might be worth the investment for a year or two.

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    Well, the front office wasn't sleeping on him. They seem to have a remarkably good handle on what's happening.

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    Getting kinda worried about Blake.

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    Champagnie proved he's a bucket getter. He was that in the G-League and in the 19 games he played for us at the end of the season. Not just a 3-and-D guy, he can fill it up which is why I loved that they locked him up on a long term deal.

    Barlow was incredible. I been very high on this kid and have rarely seen a big who's that quick on his feet with that kind of ability to protect the rim and rebound the ball. His midrange jumper looks pure. I view him more as a 4 than a 5, but he can play both positions. If he can extend his range to the 3-point line you have a PF with the ability to be a secondary rim protector. They might have to lock him up on a long term NBA deal with the big squad if he keeps playing like that. Both him and Champagnie look better than some lottery picks from the last couple of drafts.

    Wesley was very underwhelming and looked worse than in some of the games in summer league from last year tbh. Very lose with the ball and a lot of risky passes. Also didn't really show anything when it comes to finishing at the rim or shooting. Hopefully he'll play better or he might be out of the league soon.

    Cissoko clearly has a problem with his shooting form. They will have to rework his shot. The way he clanked his free throw and threw up a 3 at the side of the rim didn't look good at all.

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    We may have an answer why the spurs did not take a big at the fa with Barlow, looks really good, the best part was the mid range game imo. really solid overall

    Champagnie looks good too, nice sign

    about wesley, looks like he was asking to share the ball, he needs to clean those long prepared pass who are easily legible; other than that 8 assists is good and we saw 2-3 good finishes at the rim

    And to finish nothing on the box but i like cissoko's D

    Wesley was very underwhelming and looked worse than in some of the games in summer league from last year tbh. Very lose with the ball and a lot of risky passes. Also didn't really show anything when it comes to finishing at the rim or shooting. Hopefully he'll play better or he might be out of the league soon.
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    Last year he was playing totally different in SL, shooting a lot, attacking the rim. The spurs wants him to be a PG so they kind off limit him to that not natural role, 8 assists is good, if he manages to cut some TO ( not hard imo) he'll be good.
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    Getting kinda worried about Blake.
    yup ... he is awful

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    It was a terrrrrrrrriiible night for Blake, but I’m not ready to close the book on him yet. Anyone who has read my posts knows I like to give players the 15 game rule. It takes 15 games into the regular season to tell who these players really are and if they’ve improved, IMO.

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    I am not going to complain about players in a game they led by 30 most of the night. Last year’s Blake would have shot the Hornets back in the game by taking at least 18 shots and with 3 assists and 9 turnovers. He is Uber compe ive and improving but far from a finished product. He is a third string point guard that will play in Austin most of the year to improve his craft. Even if he never learns the point guard position like he needs to, this experience is good for him in being a team first guy as a two guard. He had complete tunnel vision last year and at Notre Dame.

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    If Julian continues this trajectory, there’s less pressure for Branham to excel at the 2,3 positions and more experimentation at PG is probably welcome (since it is a dire need). IF Julian continues, this has a major impact on the roster and it allows so much more flexibility on what the Spurs can do asset-wise. Letting Vassell go wouldn’t hurt as much, for example. I saw flashes tonight of a damn good player.

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