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    I think we need a thread just focused on the trades we are about to see.

    First up- Shams says Beal looks like he's going to Miami or Phoenix. If it's Phoenix then Ayton or CP3 have to be involved.

    Edited to add a little more: Apparently Washington is pushing to get a Beal trade done quickly. They are afraid that if Portland can find a deal for #3 that Lillard will push for a trade and complicate the market for Beal.
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    Anyone who is going to need our cap space so we can get some more picks....YES, I am greedy ...

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    Washington is probably not wrong to think that.

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    Miami seems pretty motivated to pick up Beal. Unless they think they can get in on the Lillard thing, I suppose, but that seems pretty unlikely.

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    Not even sure why anyone wants Beal tbh; especially on that contract. Dude has been cooked a few years now.

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    Scuttlebutt is Miami wants to get Beal without giving up Herro. It has to be more or less a salary dump; Miami has few assets.

    Phoenix is interested for some dumb reason. Apparently Beal's agent's dad is the CEO of the Suns. Sheesh.

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    Scuttlebutt is Miami wants to get Beal without giving up Herro. It has to be more or less a salary dump; Miami has few assets.

    Phoenix is interested for some dumb reason. Apparently Beal's agent's dad is the CEO of the Suns. Sheesh.
    I think the new ownership in Phoenix is going to rival the ownership in Houston for the worst in the league..

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    I think the new ownership in Phoenix is going to rival the ownership in Houston for the worst in the league..
    At some points I feel sorry for Suns fans.

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    Suns will have le before mavs or Houston

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    Scuttlebutt is Miami wants to get Beal without giving up Herro. It has to be more or less a salary dump; Miami has few assets.

    Phoenix is interested for some dumb reason. Apparently Beal's agent's dad is the CEO of the Suns. Sheesh.
    They're surely more concerned about keeping Herro as a trade asset rather than his on court production, which was proven irrelevant. Salary wise they can use Lowry and Oladipo, but it depends whether they'd go for a pick based compensation. Miami's future beyond the next 3 years would look quite bleak (Butler would be 37, Beal 34, they'd probably flip Herro if they can retain him), and Miami could offer #18 (rights) + '28 1st + '30 1st + '27 swap + '29 swap. That may be enough given Beal's decline and horrendous contract.

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    Was Herro irrelevant or could they have won with him

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    Was Herro irrelevant or could they have won with him
    I think he’s a nice player (wouldnt hate the spurs having him) bit of a chunker tho

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    I wonder if the Spurs would consider a Beal trade. From the looks of it, there's not a great market for him, so the Spurs could likely beat any offer without much effort. The Spurs could also match salary pretty easily or mostly take Beal into cap space. Just spit-balling, but say the Spurs use do something where they agree to trade for Beal using Keldon, Graham and McDermott

    Micic, Jones, Wesley
    Beal, Branham, Champ
    Vassell, KBD, 33
    Wemby, Sochan, Mamu
    Lopez, Collins, Bassey

    TW: Barlow, 44, camp cast-off

    It would be a completely different look we've talked about. I'm not sure Beal and his contract would be the ideal running mate for Wemby, and I've said before that I don't think the Spurs should consider strong win-now moves at this point. But Beal was a legit All-Star still in what should be his physical prime. That he could be had for so little that the Spurs could probably make two "all-in" trades after making a Beal deal makes him more intriguing for me than the average deal I see thrown out by the media.

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    I wonder if the Spurs would consider a Beal trade. From the looks of it, there's not a great market for him, so the Spurs could likely beat any offer without much effort. The Spurs could also match salary pretty easily or mostly take Beal into cap space. Just spit-balling, but say the Spurs use do something where they agree to trade for Beal using Keldon, Graham and McDermott

    Micic, Jones, Wesley
    Beal, Branham, Champ
    Vassell, KBD, 33
    Wemby, Sochan, Mamu
    Lopez, Collins, Bassey

    TW: Barlow, 44, camp cast-off

    It would be a completely different look we've talked about. I'm not sure Beal and his contract would be the ideal running mate for Wemby, and I've said before that I don't think the Spurs should consider strong win-now moves at this point. But Beal was a legit All-Star still in what should be his physical prime. That he could be had for so little that the Spurs could probably make two "all-in" trades after making a Beal deal makes him more intriguing for me than the average deal I see thrown out by the media.
    Smile.
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    Not happening.
    Especially Lopez.

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    ^ y’all are nut or trolling.

    Last thing I want right now are big ass contracts that go beyond a year, two max. We need to see what type of player will be best around him first and assess how the current one’s fit.

    All for renting space for assets, and maybe signing a few vets to show the youngsters the ropes though. Not opposed to a CP3 trade for example with understanding they Spurs will do best to move him at the deadline (or ideally he gives back some of the money if he’s waived ahead of the buy out market).

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    again it's not about what teams can offer. Beal can decide what they get back for him. If he wants a trade to Phoenix for CP3, a bag of chips and multiple seconds the Wizards have no option. Now I assume he won't hold them hostage and get them some picks back (from Miami since Phoenix can't offer any 1sts), but it's not about "beating an offer" here

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    I wonder if the Spurs would consider a Beal trade. From the looks of it, there's not a great market for him, so the Spurs could likely beat any offer without much effort. The Spurs could also match salary pretty easily or mostly take Beal into cap space. Just spit-balling, but say the Spurs use do something where they agree to trade for Beal using Keldon, Graham and McDermott Micic, Jones, Wesley Beal, Branham, Champ Vassell, KBD, 33 Wemby, Sochan, Mamu Lopez, Collins, Bassey TW: Barlow, 44, camp cast-off It would be a completely different look we've talked about. I'm not sure Beal and his contract would be the ideal running mate for Wemby, and I've said before that I don't think the Spurs should consider strong win-now moves at this point. But Beal was a legit All-Star still in what should be his physical prime. That he could be had for so little that the Spurs could probably make two "all-in" trades after making a Beal deal makes him more intriguing for me than the average deal I see thrown out by the media.
    Bradley Beal is owed 200M+ for the next 4 years (30 to 34 years old, the entirety of Wemby's rookie contract). Forget about Keldon: would you extend that offer if he was a FA right now? I wouldn't

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    again it's not about what teams can offer. Beal can decide what they get back for him. If he wants a trade to Phoenix for CP3, a bag of chips and multiple seconds the Wizards have no option. Now I assume he won't hold them hostage and get them some picks back (from Miami since Phoenix can't offer any 1sts), but it's not about "beating an offer" here
    ^ exactly, which makes WAS’ situation so difficult. Feels like salary dump plus 2 picks might be best they can get. Even then they may need to include Robinson.

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    ^ exactly, which makes WAS’ situation so difficult. Feels like salary dump plus 2 picks might be best they can get. Even then they may need to include Robinson.
    Washington doesn't need to oblige. If Beal sabotages their leverage, they can f him over by keeping him through a multi year tank. I think he'll quickly come to his senses and allow for a more favorable trade by the deadline. Stand your ground and call the bluff, worked for Philadelphia with Simmons and New Orleans with AD.

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    Washington doesn't need to oblige. If Beal sabotages their leverage, they can f him over by keeping him through a multi year tank. I think he'll quickly come to his senses and allow for a more favorable trade by the deadline.
    I think that’s a game Beta Beal is more than happy to play. He’s all about the checks.

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    I think that’s a game Beta Beal is more than happy to play. He’s all about the checks.
    Nah. He's used to being worshiped as the main guy on a treadmill team. If he openly sabotages Washington's trade options and antagonizes management, he's liable to get screwed by them in multiple ways and won't be the fanbase's darling anymore. He's got plenty to lose if things go sour.

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    Nah. He's used to being worshiped as the main guy on a treadmill team. If he openly sabotages Washington's trade options and antagonizes management, he's liable to get screwed by them in multiple ways and won't be the fanbase's darling anymore. He's got plenty to lose if things go sour.
    Folks here in DC have started to figure out the deal with him. Also, he’s never gonna be as beloved at Wall was here. If anything he’ll play the victim/narrative game if they start benching him for long periods.

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    The Athletic-

    According to league sources, who were granted anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the trade talks, Miami would send guards Kyle Lowry and Duncan Robinson, along with multiple first-round picks, to Washington for Beal. Phoenix would send center Deandre Ayton and additional cap filler or include future Hall of Fame point guard Chris Paul and Landry Shamet to the Wizards for Beal.

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    The Athletic-

    According to league sources, who were granted anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the trade talks, Miami would send guards Kyle Lowry and Duncan Robinson, along with multiple first-round picks, to Washington for Beal. Phoenix would send center Deandre Ayton and additional cap filler or include future Hall of Fame point guard Chris Paul and Landry Shamet to the Wizards for Beal.
    Sounds about right. It would be SUCH as Wizards move to take back Ayton. Gotta get that play-in slot!

    Jeesh, I hope they don’t do it, but I know they will somehow… ugh!

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    It’s gonna be the suns tbh all KD and Booker gotta do is pickup the phone and tell Beal how he’s the missing piece etc

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