Reply With Quote
Great thread le, OP.
Whether you’re a fan of his or not, we need this anti jinx thread to ing work like the Wemby one. It’s good for the Spurs in the long run— ups his trade value or he becomes a key piece.
Great thread le, OP.
You and I (or me and myself) are never going to let those alt conspiracies die.
IMHO coaching staff let him down by allowing him to focus mostly on offence ignoring defensive game. He hasn't became reliable no2 offensively (yet) and his defensive metrics are nose diving last 2 seasons. Let's hope that with health improving he will find consistency and energy to play well on both sides most of the time.
Honestly, maybe everyone needs to give up the idea that he needs to become a two way star to justify his worth. If he becomes a good player on offense, I don’t think I’ll care about his defense. Just surround him (and Wemby) with defensive players at that point… we already are in a way doing that. I think the bar is so low around the league on stars playing defense anyway. I don’t think Devin Booker is much of a defender and I don’t think Devin is much worse than him on that end even if the stats say otherwise.
In the spirit of the thread, the Spurs have failed him health-wise. They need to either restrict his minutes relatively speaking permanently or find some way to keep him healthy. If they can do that, I have no doubt he'll find his offensive rhythm again. Defensively, well, what Scott has said recently has really resonated with me and been an eye opener but I'm still in his camp - IF he can stay healthy.
The whole team, including the coaching staff, ignored defense for two years. How do you just snap out of that?
We let his MCS (main character syndrome) metastasize instead of chemo’ing the out of it early on
Trade him for Champagnie
Maybe if we get this thread to two pages it will work. So far, no dice.
Think the only thing holding this dude back is not getting up enough shots. I think Wemby needs to get over himself and let DV24 start pounding that rock
There is no fix. Dude has no idea how to play winning basketball. He’s a role player ideally who thinks he’s a MC. On every contender he would be the 3rd or 4th option at best and yet Spurstalk mistakenly believed he could be a 2 option. He isn’t smart enough bb iq wise to be that. And that’s more of the American youth basketball failing than the Spurs.
Dude was “taught” basketball by AAU which has become corrupt and focuses mainly on money rather than teaching kids the correct way to play. KG has spoken on this aspect in one of his podcasts with the Pierce. Then he goes to college and plays all of one year and doesn’t learn how to play winning basketball. Then we draft him at 19 for his upside but he is clearly lost on defense bc nobody has ever taught him advanced defensive sets. He’s never thinking two or three steps ahead on offense and focuses on himself most of the time. Some people just aren’t basketball savvy.
Ofc I would’ve done what they did in the old days. Sign a championship vet and assign him to Vassell. Show him the ins and outs of the games. Show him how to work on his body and diet. Put actual pressure on Vassell to learn how to play basketball correctly. But instead we were happy being the young stupid team for the past 5 years.
Vassell off ball instincts were vastly better in the first two seasons than now. His D on bigger players were bad and I just assumed as he got thicker, he'll do fine. For some reason his D just went way downhill, while his shot is so pure. I don't expect him to miss. This season, he had that hot streak off the bench but struggled since joining the starting lineup.
He is an obvious keeper.
He doesn't have to be a two way star, no one is asking him to be Ant. He just has to not be dog level defensively. If he was an average defender he'd be enormously valuable and no one would be wanting to trade him for Fox.
And I’m saying I would gladly accept him being a dog defender if he was our legit #2 scorer.
Let me come out and state my opinion very directly: this guy is a loser. The sooner we dump him, the better. I’d rather have Keldon and Collins in their roles than Devin in his.
And again, I’m a stat geek as much as anybody else and I don’t accept the stats saying he’s a dog defender. When you’ve been through years of Forbes, you know what i’m talking about. Vassell is nowhere near Forbes (or Patty Mills) level on defense.
No need to bait me like this… you can just ask me to build a chart, lol. Will have it in about an hour, boss.
If only he were clutch.
Or consistent.
Or durable.
Or gave effort on defense.
Or made hustle plays.
Gee, what a glowing endorsement. Where's his supermax?
for his contract yes he has.
I know the stats will say they’re comparable. I’m merely going by my eyes and watching Vassell on defense doesn’t make me want to pull my hair out and burn the house down. It’s not even as bad as Branham.
Parker was never good defensively and yet we didnt really care because he could score buckets and become Tim’s #2. Manu regressed defensively and we didnt care because he could be #2 at any given night. These 2 dudes could give you at least 20 even on a bad night. Vassell’s bad night can be 6 points. That is totally unacceptable.
Damn, I wasn't even expecting this
send his ass back to the bench....Seems to play better from there anyways.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
