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    I’d argue that he’s one step away from being an elite role player right now. Once he starts hitting 3’s consistently, he’s there.

    But with the emergence of him being a combo guard because he’s been thrusted into that role, does that change anyone’s perception of him? I think it was always wishful thinking that he’d have that kind of responsibility in a Manu Ginobili kind of way, but he’s handling the ball more as a point guard during Summer League. It seems like it’s trending more towards a true secondary playmaker instead of a third option type, handle-the-ball-when-you-have-to player.

    I think this opens up his upside by a ton. A 6-6” playmaker is going to be fun to watch as a Spurs fan.

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    I think his career will go the way of some combination of Marcus Smart and Jrue Holiday. High end role player.

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    I'm saying Elite Role Player... even if to just keep my expectations down. I'm hoping we can get Star #2 next summer, but Wemby + 4 Elite Role Players = a winning team (as long as the role players are set up correctly).

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    Chris Paul is the guard whisperer. Then add in growing with Wemby. Castle is gonna be more than a role player when it’s said and done.

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    I expect him to be borderline Allstar, selections depending a lot on hype and limited places.

    I see some SGA in him, the way he keeps his emotions in check and has a collective mindset, but that ceiling depends on his work ethic (shooting in particular) and determination/hunger (to become the best he can be).

    Can't wait

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    I think his career will go the way of some combination of Marcus Smart and Jrue Holiday. High end role player.
    Those players have nowhere near the same career. Jrue has 6 All D team selections and two All Star selections. I wouldn’t categorize that as any kind of ‘role player’, but I’d absolutely take that as Castle’s outcome.

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    Chris Paul is the guard whisperer. Then add in growing with Wemby. Castle is gonna be more than a role player when it’s said and done.
    Even though we’re not the same type of team, he’ll get room to grow like Kawhi did because of Wemby getting 100% of the attention.

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    Those players have nowhere near the same career. Jrue has 6 All D team selections and two All Star selections. I wouldn’t categorize that as any kind of ‘role player’, but I’d absolutely take that as Castle’s outcome.
    I get what you’re saying. But imo Jrue is closer to a role player than he was a star. He was never consistent enough on offense to be viewed as a star which is part of the reason why those Bucks teams faltered in the playoffs against good half court defenses.

    But I agree with you that if Castle is anywhere close either one that’s a great outcome. They bring winning intangibles.

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    I get what you’re saying. But imo Jrue is closer to a role player than he was a star. He was never consistent enough on offense to be viewed as a star which is part of the reason why those Bucks teams faltered in the playoffs against good half court defenses.

    But I agree with you that if Castle is anywhere close either one that’s a great outcome. They bring winning intangibles.
    He’s run the offense on two championship teams. Not a role player of any kind. He doesn’t have to be a star to not be a role player. Quality starter and elite defender.

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    Castle has the luxury of potentially having a long career with Wemby, much like Manu and TP had with Timmy, and in an organization that values continuity. I think everybody’s play will go up especially with CP? on board. I think Castle will be multiple All-NBA Defensive team at the least.

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    I see star potential in Castle. Will he get there? I’m not sure. But the ingredients are certainly there. He can handle the ball, create his own shot, has an incredible feel for the game, knows the little nuances of when to start and stop, when to shift pace and change direction, when to pass the ball and when to look for his own shot, how to contort his body in mid-air. Plus, he is said to have a very strong work ethic, and his shooting form already looks good, so there’s reason to be optimistic he will learn to shoot it straight.

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    I see star potential in Castle. Will he get there? I’m not sure. But the ingredients are certainly there. He can handle the ball, create his own shot, has an incredible feel for the game, knows the little nuances of when to start and stop, when to shift pace and change direction, when to pass the ball and when to look for your own shot, how to contort your body in mid-air. Plus, he is said to have a very strong work ethic, and his shooting form already looks good, so there’s reason to be optimistic he will learn to shoot it straight.
    The thing that really impressed me was his selection of a university. He was the #9-10 recruit in his class, and I think the #2 PG. He probably had coaches lining up to put the ball in his hands and let him do whatever he wanted. He passed on that and went to a top notch program that would teach him things he needs to know for the next level. That impressed me, that a high level recruit was willing to play a role in order to learn and to win.

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    Need that castle vassell duo to beak the fck out this season

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    Guess it depends on what you mean by “Star.” I personally think he’ll make at least a couple All-Star games in his career once his prime rolls around. All hinges on that jump shot of course. His defense should be elite from day one, and he’s already a very good passer who excels at bullying his way to the cup. All the tools are there. Either way, he bottoms out as a high-end role player imo who has the potential to be an All-Star caliber player, which I eventually think he will be, especially playing alongside Wemby.

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    Ask me after his rookie season.

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    Guess it depends on what you mean by “Star.” I personally think he’ll make at least a couple All-Star games in his career once his prime rolls around. All hinges on that jump shot of course. His defense should be elite from day one, and he’s already a very good passer who excels at bullying his way to the cup. All the tools are there. Either way, he bottoms out as a high-end role player imo who has the potential to be an All-Star caliber player, which I eventually think he will be, especially playing alongside Wemby.
    He feels like the next Marcus Smart. Jumper issues as well.

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    another Jeremy Sochan tbh

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    Even though we’re not the same type of team, he’ll get room to grow like Kawhi did because of Wemby getting 100% of the attention.
    Agreed. Situation matters and it’s an interesting thought experiment to consider what becomes of Parker and Ginobili on a different team? Same for Klay and especially Draymond in GS. The gravity of a transcendent players cultivate the players around them.

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    Agreed. Situation matters and it’s an interesting thought experiment to consider what becomes of Parker and Ginobili on a different team? Same for Klay and especially Draymond in GS. The gravity of a transcendent players cultivate the players around them.
    Draymond almost didn’t happen in GS. Mark Jackson barely played him. If they hadn’t hired Kerr, he might have withered on the vine, never becoming the league’s #1 villain.

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    Ultimate jinx thread, tbqh.

    Thanks for ruining him before he even plays a game.

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    Ultimate jinx thread, tbqh.

    Thanks for ruining him before he even plays a game.
    Another Jimmer Fredette, Jimmer Fredette

    Come to terms!!!

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    The thing that really impressed me was his selection of a university. He was the #9-10 recruit in his class, and I think the #2 PG. He probably had coaches lining up to put the ball in his hands and let him do whatever he wanted. He passed on that and went to a top notch program that would teach him things he needs to know for the next level. That impressed me, that a high level recruit was willing to play a role in order to learn and to win.
    I believe he committed to UConn before they made their run, i.e. before they won the first of the back-to-backs. He sniffed out a coach and staff on the verge of greatness.

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    I believe he committed to UConn before they made their run, i.e. before they won the first of the back-to-backs. He sniffed out a coach and staff on the verge of greatness.
    He still could have done what almost every young recruit would do and go for USG% to show up for scouts.

    UConn, in their long and storied history, had never had a McDonalds All American commit, even when they won three championships under Jim Calhoun. Just winning had never been a high draw before.

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    Ultimate jinx thread, tbqh.

    Thanks for ruining him before he even plays a game.
    Yeah, my thoughts as well, Golden Boy.

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    He still could have done what almost every young recruit would do and go for USG% to show up for scouts.

    UConn, in their long and storied history, had never had a McDonalds All American commit, even when they won three championships under Jim Calhoun. Just winning had never been a high draw before.
    Sure. My point is rather that Castle saw precisely what he wanted from a coaching staff and that he was absolutely correct in identifying how good they were.

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