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    Look Into Your Crystall Balls And Tell Me

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    Sleeping With The Original Axis of Evil hussker's Avatar
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    And the crystal ball says....


    The Guy on First Cares...

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    Hmmm....

    I gotta go with West as the Timmy and Tony are on the West team.

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    The guy on first cares...

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    that . Redd got robbed. Several guys get robbed so the Peons can get their 4 in. Ben Wallace did not deserve thats hit over Redd.. over several guys. Most bull I've seen in ASW in a while.

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    3 cares

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    whatever sells.

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    All star selection rules dictate that there be at least one back-up center on each team. In the West, they bent the rules and slid either Garnett, Dirk, or Gasol to the center position because sometimes they each play there. But, if Ben Wallace didn't deserve to go, then the coaches would have likely selected Zydrunas Ilgauskas to go, and you would still be yelling how Michael Redd got robbed. I actually think that Rasheed should not have been selected. I thought Dwight Howard should have been selected instead of Rasheed.

    Michael Redd is having an all star type season. But, every year there will be several players who get "snubbed" as it is impossible to fit every worthy player on a roster that fits only 24 players out of the 400+ players in the league.

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    Figure it out...a challenge!

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    Figure it out...a challenge!

    i don't feel like thinking

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    wtf gives a

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    I do...in fact, i have a NICE corny one for you...Would you like it in paper or plastic?

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    you people are sad

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    that . Redd got robbed. Several guys get robbed so the Peons can get their 4 in. Ben Wallace did not deserve thats hit over Redd.. over several guys. Most bull I've seen in ASW in a while.


    Shawn Marion (19.4 ppg, 11.3 rpg, 1.9 apg, 2.01 spg, 1.47 bpg), Steve Nash (15.5 ppg, 11.5 apg, 3.3 rpg), and Amare Stoudemire (26.0 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 1.6 apg, 1.63 bpg). Those are the three players that made the 2005 All-Star Team off of the team with the best record at the All-Star Break. The Pistons were treated like every other front runner, especially when those parts haven't had All-Star Appearances before, and the guys in question (Redd, Arenas) have.

    Pistons stats (40-8, best start in Franchise history):
    Richard Hamilton: 21.6 ppg (.499 FG%, .865 FT%), 3.4 rpg, 3.4 apg.
    Chauncey Billups: 18.8 ppg (.427 FG%, .927 FT%), 8.4 apg, 3.3 rpg.
    Rasheed Wallace: 15.1 ppg (.435 FG%, .730 FT%), 6.6 rpg, 2.6 apg, 1.15 spg, 1.60 bpg.
    Ben Wallace: 7.8 ppg (.495 FG%, .452 FT%), 12.4 rpg, 2.1 apg, 1.56 spg, 2.25 bpg.
    Last edited by Darrin; 02-10-2006 at 11:42 AM.

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    Shawn Marion, Steve Nash, and Amare Stoudemire. Those are the three players that made the 2005 All-Star Team off of the team with the best record at the All-Star Break. The Pistons were treated like every other front runner, especially when those parts haven't had All-Star Appearances before, and the guys in question (Redd, Arenas) have.

    The Spurs had the best record last year at the ASB - Pop coached, remember?

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    Hmmm....

    I gotta go with West as the Timmy and Tony are on the West team.
    thanks Homer.

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    So that allows Redd and Arenas to get screwed over biased fans and coaches favoring one team? No NBA fan, no Piston fan can say about that. Rip and Billups deserved it, BWall is a have to cause the East has for big men. But Sheed over Redd/Arenas? Bull .

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    I like that so many Pistons are going. I hope and think Flip will paly them all together and it will be interesting to see how good players that play together fare against superior players that are not as cohesive. Kind of like the Olympics with Argentina agianst the US but playing by NBA rules. Talent on the West is superior to the Olympic team and Pistons are more talented than Argentina was.

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    The Spurs had the best record last year at the ASB - Pop coached, remember?
    You're right; I'm sorry. The Suns had that losing streak in January because Steve Nash was out - I just remembered. They were still 41-13.

    And if Coach Popovich went to the ASG, that stengthens my case further. Manu Ginobili (16.0 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 3.9 apg, 1.61 spg) and Tim Duncan (20.3 ppg, 11.1 rpg, 2.7 apg, 2.64 bpg) were both there.

    As a matter of fact, the 12 All-Stars for the West were divided between 5 teams (Seattle, Minnesota, San Antonio, Phoenix, and LA Lakers). The average winning percentage was .607 (50 wins). Only one member of the team, Kobe Bryant, played on a losing team. Of the All-Stars, five were in the Conference Finals, all but two were in the second round.

    Meanwhile in the East, 9 teams (Boston, Philadelphia, Washington, Detroit, Miami, Indiana, Orlando, New Jersey, and Cleveland) for the 12 All-Stars. The average winning percentage was .547 (44 wins). Three All-Stars did not make the playoffs. Five players made it to the second round, and 3 were in the Conference Finals.

    The Pistons record (32-19) was used as justification for Antawn Jamison and Paul Pierce making it over Richard Hamilton and Chauncey Billups. Jamison and Wade made an All-Star team before Hamilton and Billups.

    Find me the last leading scorer of the NBA Champion not to make the All-Star Game. Name me the last Finals MVP not to make an All-Star Team. This isn't just about this season; this is about this season and being disrespected for the last four. Ben Wallace was third-team All-NBA in 2001-02, Cliff Robinson was 2nd Team All-Defense. Both of them apparently were worse than Atlanta's Shareef Abdur-Rahim. A year later, apparently Cliff Robinson wasn't better than 17-win Zydrunas Ilgauskaus. Apparently, the accomplishments of New Orleans (Jamal Mashburn, Baron Davis) out-weighed the accomplishments of Detroit (Richard Hamilton, Chauncey Billups). Once again, Paul Pierce of the 36-win Celtics makes it over those two guys in 2004.

    So tell me again what's bull ?

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    Arenas carries his team like no single Piston would. Look at the Pistons past, they were losers until they all got together. Together as a team they're awesome but alone, they are just ok.

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    So that allows Redd and Arenas to get screwed over biased fans and coaches favoring one team? No NBA fan, no Piston fan can say about that. Rip and Billups deserved it, BWall is a have to cause the East has for big men. But Sheed over Redd/Arenas? Bull .
    One of those guys is going to make it; trust me. Secondly, the Pistons have a lot of room for leeway here:

    Shareef Abdur Rahim over the only only the fourth player in NBA history to lead the league in blocks and rebounds in the same season.

    Cliff Robinson being left off the team in favor of Zydrunas Ilgauskaus in the tank-the-season year to draft Lebron James.

    Richard Hamilton and Chauncey Billups losing out to Paul Pierce and Michael Redd in 2004, the combined record of the two teams being 78-86 (.475) and exactly 1 playoff win between them. That snub made Chauncey Billups the first Finals MVP since Joe Dumars to win the award before being in an All-Star Game.

    Zydrunas Ilgaskaus, Antawn Jamison, Jamaal Magloire, Michael Redd, Gilbert Arenas, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Dwyane Wade, Manu Ginobili, Andrei Kirilenko, and Brad Miller all made an All-Star team before Chauncey Billups and Richard Hamilton.
    Last edited by Darrin; 02-10-2006 at 01:11 PM.

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    Arenas carries his team like no single Piston would. Look at the Pistons past, they were losers until they all got together. Together as a team they're awesome but alone, they are just ok.
    Why is Paul Pierce on this team? Why is that not getting the same kind of criticism as the Pistons?

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    Bad team or not, Paul Pierce is having a career season. He belongs on the team. Even as a Pistons fan, I think the criticisms that Rasheed is on the team has some merit. I don't think anyone can intelligibly argue against Chauncey, Ben, or Rip being named.

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