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I wonder what pick the lottery pick is protected to?
I wonder what pick the lottery pick is protected to?
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Chris McCosky the pistons insider said on wdfn 1130 am that the Pick is for 2007 protect 1 to 5. And its only protected for 2007, after 2007 no Protection.
I can't say I like this, hopefully Joe D has something else up his sleeve.....
For a 2006 pick, I could deal w/ this trade....sort of..........but for a protected 2007? BS
Wow, they really took it hard in this trade. How did Orlando pull this off? Was there really that little an interest in Darko?For a 2006 pick, I could deal w/ this trade....sort of..........but for a protected 2007? BS
Darko and Howard?
Interesting. Now to just get rid of Franchode and the team will be semi-decent.
I'm kinda curious to see those two play together.
You guys have seen Darko play. Is he actually any good at all or is he useless?
Getting a bag of doritos for Darko is a good deal.
Haha, well thats kind of the problem. We've barely seen him play. Its hard to judge him from what little we've seen. He usually looks lost and uncoordinated on the court, but he's shown flashes of great talent.
Dumars must've got the Isaiah Thomas disease. What a ing stupid trade.
Depends on what kind of Doritos...
I don't understand why they shipped out Arroyo. Who is their backup PG now?
They will most likely activate Alex Acker and use Lindsay Hunter, Delfino, and Prince at point. But I am sure there is something up Dumars sleeve to get some sort of backup.
reports coming out of AM12.70 in detroit is Joe D offered raptorsdarko and arroya and they turned it down they want a 1st round pick.so a reliable source on a local detroits radio station says pistons and raptors are gonna do a trade sending cato and 1st round picks to toronto for mike james.
Will that even work. Cato makes 5 million more a year than James, let alone giving Toronto extra picks. That would be ty .
One thing is certain.... Joe absolutely KNOWS that Darko is going to be a huge bust.
Funny how Cato becomes the 2nd highest paid Piston...
yes cause i belive detroit will give them the draft picks and cato has a expired at the end of the season.
Depending on which Piston fan you ask, you're likely get different answers.
I am one of the Darko supporters. I think he does have lots of skill....but it is still very raw. He is pretty quick for a 7 footer. He has a knack of being able to get a block on jumpshooters. Playing against Sheed in practice probably helped him on this front as he has a very high release...compared to him everyone else is easy to get a block on. He is a pretty damn good passer. Has the ability to hit 3's....when confident. He also has the ability to shoot airballs!
The fact is that he is still very young. Also, he never played many minutes while in Europe. He was drafted purely on potential. IMO no one can say if he's good or if he sucks. He just doesn't have enough game time to make an honest judgement. He has though definetly shown "Flashes".....
His biggest downside, is his seemingly lack of agressiveness. He often looks laxidasical when out there. I think this is mostly due to his 'situation'. The kid knows that he will never see any serious playing time. No way in he get's into the rotation while Ben,Sheed and Dice are in front of him. He knows that. He has no real incentive to do anything else.
Also, he did have to play under LB for 2 years. Who knows how that has affected him. He seems to be the type of guy that you have to coddle a little bit. Seems a little sensitive and immature in regards to his at ude. But I mostly attribute that to his age, and being a little shy coming to a new country...learning the language, learning how to drive etc etc. His is still very young and has had to make a lot of adjustments in his life.
As mad as I am to swee him traded, I am happy for him as he will finally get a chance to play. More importantly, he'll get a chance to play after making mistakes. Too often, he has been pulled and shelved for multiple games if he made a mistake, I believe it was against New York this year, he played very poorly...and we didn't see him on the floor again for like 12 games. He will never learn to get better if he isn't allowed to make mistakes, and improve upon them.
Was he worth the #2 pick? Who knows. Perhaps time will tell. But we did win a 'ship'. I don't know if that'd be true if we did take Melo or Bosh or Wade etc etc... We would have been focused too much IMO in getting them playing time. Who knows.
I think he may in time be considered a little bit of a dissapointment. In that I mean to say that I don't think his #'s will reflect what we tend to think a #2 should get. I beleive his numbers will look like: 18pt 8rb 4ast 2blk. Those are good #'s, but perhaps not what we expect form the second overall pick.
Skill wise I think he'll be a mix of Memo and Kirelenko....maybe. He will need to find his nasty side though. He has to show a little of that Pau Gasol aggression. (I just noticed I used 3 white Euro's in trying to describe him.....
).
Initially he'll make an impact defensively. At least he did learn that from Detroit. Many times I've seen him make play after play on the defensive side. Blocking all over the place. He needs to become a better rebounder. Doesn't block people out very well. But playing alongside Howard, that may nopt matter as much. I think given time, those two, side by side could be a very fun duo to watch. Add Jameer Nelson and possibly Jamal Crawford from NY, Hedo, Grant Hill....they could be fun to watch.
I wish him the best, but I know I will be pissed off in a couple of years when I see him dropping 25 on people.
i'm very happy far darko and arroya their gonna beable to play instead of being bystander's behind the pistons player's.i cant wait to see how they do on the magic i'm excitted for them both.Depending on which Piston fan you ask, you're likely get different answers.
I am one of the Darko supporters. I think he does have lots of skill....but it is still very raw. He is pretty quick for a 7 footer. He has a knack of being able to get a block on jumpshooters. Playing against Sheed in practice probably helped him on this front as he has a very high release...compared to him everyone else is easy to get a block on. He is a pretty damn good passer. Has the ability to hit 3's....when confident. He also has the ability to shoot airballs!
The fact is that he is still very young. Also, he never played many minutes while in Europe. He was drafted purely on potential. IMO no one can say if he's good or if he sucks. He just doesn't have enough game time to make an honest judgement. He has though definetly shown "Flashes".....
His biggest downside, is his seemingly lack of agressiveness. He often looks laxidasical when out there. I think this is mostly due to his 'situation'. The kid knows that he will never see any serious playing time. No way in he get's into the rotation while Ben,Sheed and Dice are in front of him. He knows that. He has no real incentive to do anything else.
Also, he did have to play under LB for 2 years. Who knows how that has affected him. He seems to be the type of guy that you have to coddle a little bit. Seems a little sensitive and immature in regards to his at ude. But I mostly attribute that to his age, and being a little shy coming to a new country...learning the language, learning how to drive etc etc. His is still very young and has had to make a lot of adjustments in his life.
As mad as I am to swee him traded, I am happy for him as he will finally get a chance to play. More importantly, he'll get a chance to play after making mistakes. Too often, he has been pulled and shelved for multiple games if he made a mistake, I believe it was against New York this year, he played very poorly...and we didn't see him on the floor again for like 12 games. He will never learn to get better if he isn't allowed to make mistakes, and improve upon them.
Was he worth the #2 pick? Who knows. Perhaps time will tell. But we did win a 'ship'. I don't know if that'd be true if we did take Melo or Bosh or Wade etc etc... We would have been focused too much IMO in getting them playing time. Who knows.
I think he may in time be considered a little bit of a dissapointment. In that I mean to say that I don't think his #'s will reflect what we tend to think a #2 should get. I beleive his numbers will look like: 18pt 8rb 4ast 2blk. Those are good #'s, but perhaps not what we expect form the second overall pick.
Skill wise I think he'll be a mix of Memo and Kirelenko....maybe. He will need to find his nasty side though. He has to show a little of that Pau Gasol aggression. (I just noticed I used 3 white Euro's in trying to describe him.....
Initially he'll make an impact defensively. At least he did learn that from Detroit. Many times I've seen him make play after play on the defensive side. Blocking all over the place. He needs to become a better rebounder. Doesn't block people out very well. But playing alongside Howard, that may nopt matter as much. I think given time, those two, side by side could be a very fun duo to watch. Add Jameer Nelson and possibly Jamal Crawford from NY, Hedo, Grant Hill....they could be fun to watch.
I wish him the best, but I know I will be pissed off in a couple of years when I see him dropping 25 on people.
This trade pretty much ends the debate about whether Dumars is a better GM than Pop/RC.
Word....
Giving up on a prospect like that is just lunacy.
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