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I agree. I thought Crash was one of the better films I've seen. It really got to me and my girlfriend. After it was over we both looked at each other and said, "that was solid".
Thoroughly enjoyed it.
I scanned thru the threads and though I saw lots of comments on the Oscars, I haven't seen any on the best picture award. There is a ridiculous amount of carping in the European press (especially British) that Crash is a terrible movie and it only won because we (Americans) are so phobic and so attached to our beloved cowboy movies to award a film that dares depict them as gay.
Seriously, it was Americans who made the f*cking film, nominated it for a ton of awards, and it was the favorite to win....so the accusation is such bull . Damn those Euros piss me off.
Anyway, I thought Crash was an outstanding film. Some people complain that it is way too exaggerated, but it is not meant as a literal film....I mean, obviously we do have racism in America as do all societies. But it is, in the words of the film makers made to be viewed more as a modern day parable, not as a realistic depiction of what happens on any given day in LA. For me, it was shocking, thrilling, brutal, funny, ironic and heartwrenching.
I loved Crash. And that was absolutely the BEST ensemble acting I've ever seen. Terrence Howard was absolutely brilliant (still can't believe he wasn't nominated in the best actor category).
So, to sum it up, I think Crash was the best film.
Any thoughts?
I agree. I thought Crash was one of the better films I've seen. It really got to me and my girlfriend. After it was over we both looked at each other and said, "that was solid".
Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Crash wasn't the best film. I haven't seen Brokeback and I really have no desire to because it seems like a corny love story all sexuality aside so I can't comment on if its better.
However, Crash was cliche as all . The snow? Give me a break. I get the point they tried to make (who woudln't - being subtle apparently is too difficult these days) but it seems to me they made it too accessible. And there's nothing wrong with an accessible movie as far as the ponit is concerned, but don't sit there and tell me that its a great work when it is the movie equivilant of a Dr. Seuss book.
Yeah, I've heard some say that.But most everyone I've talked too thought it was a great film. And if you think about, you can say all movies are a cliche.
I would watch it with a fox
I would watch it in a box
actually, I would say I've never seen a film that did not contain cliches. The point is how strongly a movie absorbs you and makes you care about the characters, even the ones that are assholes. I hated Matt Dillon's character (for obvious reasons),but in the scenes with his father, I genuinely felt for him. Any movie that can make you feel compassion for someone who is otherwise a total racist certainly deserves better comments than ridiculous Dr. Seuss comparisons. But to each his own.Yeah, I've heard some say that.
I would watch it with a fox
I would watch it in a box
Last edited by Jelly; 03-06-2006 at 10:52 PM.
Crash.
It is a very fitting comparison. Dr. Seuss specialized in simplistic books. This was a very simplistic respresntation of racism in our society.
You guys want to see a good film on racism, watch the do entary on Jasper that was done a few years ago. Crash was ok, but the fact that it was picture of the year just makes me wonder how lackluster the rest of those nominese were.
And there are plenty of movies without cliches.
Oh, and on top of that, the movie was very unbelieveable. The blanks, The snow, the endless coincidences that make an episode of Lost look simple.
To each their own, but Crash was sub par as a picture of the year for me.
Crash had extremely good acting and had an engaging message. Brokeback Mountain has equally great acting and a wonderful feel and look.
Neither of them would even be in my top 5 for the year though.
Like I said, it was meant as a parable.
And your top 5 are........
Yes, to each his own. Nobody will agree on it because it is person choice.
I really enjoyed Hustle & Flow. Terrance Howard is very good.
And your top 5 are........
Good question, I'm not sure.
Guess it was a relatively weak year for movies.
As big a fan as I am of small independent films, I thought King Kong was the best overall movie I saw this year. I also liked Munich better than Brokeback or Crash.
Still waiting to see Good Night and Good Luck.
King Kong was great on the entertainment scale but not on the Oscar scale.
Crash was cool and The Constant Gardener was great too.
Haven't seen those. King Kong I'll have to pass on. Not really my cup of tea.
But I am really looking forward to seeing A History of Violence which is on DVD release March 14th. Can't wait.
Well I submit that the "Oscar scale" should factor entertainment into the picture more than it does...
Even with that said I thought it had Oscar qualities along with its entertainment value... Social commentary, great performances... 3 hours long...
A History of Violence is another one I need to see. Constant Gardener too.
What does bug me about the Academy is that they give no respect whatsoever to comedies. Why should they be excluded from the Best Film category?
If you ask me, and I'm not an actor, really good, intelligent comedy has got to be extremely hard to pull off. (and for this year I would say Wedding Crashers was the best I've seen).
my final comment of the night (especially directed at Manny). One of the best movies ever was full of cliches (and stereotypes). Nevertheless, it was a brilliant film. Goodfellas.
crash by a longshot. i was happy they picked crash over brokeback. no one gives a about a couple of cowboy flamers hookin up as much as the effects of sterotyping.
I haven't seen the other nominated movies, but I loved Crash.
Cliches are fine, but not in a movie trying to be "deep" and "meaningful". Then they're just cheesy.
Crash was the only Best Picture nominee I saw, and I thought it sucked.
I just went back and reread your edit. Sorry, but I in no way felt the warm fuzzies for Matt Damon's (or any other for that matter) character in Crash. The man is feeling her up then risking his life for her the next day?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. They might as well have had a clan member running in there and pulling her out.
This statement seems to contradict itself. Isn't calling two gay men 'flamers' a stereotype? So you basically used a stereotype to explain why a movie that seeks to explain the affects of stereotyping is better than a movie that seeks to do the same.
In other words, a movie about racial stereotypes>a movie about gay ones?
I've seen them both and I thought Crash was just your run of the mill par movie. I had no idea that it was worthy of a best picture nomination so I was surprised it was nominated.
Brokeback was a decent movie. I would probably watch it again just to get the full effect of the movie. I liked it, but I also don't know if it's the best movie of the year.
The movie I really liked was Walk The Line. I'm not very clued in to which movies can be nominated or the mores, but I'll assume this one is not eligible since it wasn't really a story created. It did have some awesome acting and singing though.
Rating Scale 1-10
Crash - 5
Brokeback - 7.3
Walk The Line - 8.1
Oh yeah I thought Saw II was pretty cool, but I know it's not a very artistic movie.
Saw II - 6.4
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