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When Petro was playing with Pau he didn't get much playing time, did he?
Ian to pau orthez next year?
Ian really improved this year. But lehavre, his team is still nothing more than average. There are Two options for him to keep developing at this fast speed:
- join the spurs this summer
- stay one more year in europe in a club that play in euroleague
This will be the second one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This week the rumor started that Ian will play for Pau Orthez next year. Pau is historically one of the best french team of the last ten years. They are leading the championship and should play the euroleaugue next year
http://msn.eurosport.fr/basketball/tp_sto872913.shtml
Pau is known to be a young player farm: as far as french player that were groomed in Pau and then joined the nba you can count: Boris Diaw, Mike Pietrus, and the latest Johan Petro...
I think it is a good news for Ian, i will check on the coaching staff and their previous relation with POP later but i am at work now
When Petro was playing with Pau he didn't get much playing time, did he?
Im beginning to wonder if we could possibly use his presnce next year, If the spurs are really interested in getting younger and with Nazr's contract up this summer it would make some sense to bring in some of the young guys we have on hold in Europe i.e. Sandizikid and Mahinimi. Maybe Scola, but frankly...i wonder if that guy is ever gonna play in the NBA.
Im really excited about this kid though, I wonder what type of player he could be for the Spurs down the road.... wouldn't it nice to find a little Amare Stoudamire in him?
No he really didn't and was really inconsistent. The coaching staff did not trust him or trusted more experienced players...This is why him going so soon to the NBA was questioned. However seattle being so weak inside gave him enough opportunities and playing time to develop. the Question is if Ian was coming to the spurs would he have so much time?
Ian is having a better year than Petro before coming to the NBA. but Petro was tecnhically better (not started basket 5 years ago) and playing in a club that could not afford to loose whereas Ian is in an average team
Well I suppose if Ian was guarenteed playing time and a major role on the team, then this would be a good move for him. That beign said the Spurs have to step in on these contract negotiations.
You're a little late, Kori posted this news two days ago :
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=884937
Question is, if Ian goes to a team that's competing at a higher level with seasoned players at that position will he get much playing time. Pau will be committed to winning not developing him?
I made a search on mahinmi and could not find it so i created it. I was atr work and did this fast. my bad.
Yeah they already have a good center i think--and even if Ian is the best 5 on the team, that doesnt mean he is going to get the touches to develop.
I dont know, there arent any other options besides bringing him over here to the D league, im not sure why that wouldnt work.
Pau-Orthez's coach is Didier Gadou : I'm sure you know Gadou's brother but for american people Didier gadou is a young coach (he is born in 1965) who was one of the best player in France.I think it is a good news for Ian, i will check on the coaching staff and their previous relation with POP later but i am at work now
It's not sure that he will sign with Pau-Orthez too, he will sign with a french team who play the euroleague. Two french team will play the euroleague : the team with the best ranking over last 3 seasons who is qualified for the next 3 seasons (this is the last year of the 3 years period and the champion.
Pau-Orthez lead the euroleague ranking but nothing is done.
Edit : mistake an qualified teams or the euroleague.
Last edited by Bruno; 04-26-2006 at 12:22 PM.
Not really, Ian is still a very good center in France and if he continue to progress he will be one of the best center in the french league. In europe, center are way more in foul troubles than in nba : even if he is the backup, he will play a lot.
The interest for him to play in a top french team is that he will still play the domestic championship (34 games + playoffs) but he will also play the euroleague against top players in europe (at least 14 games).
Thanks bruno. i think from what we know the spurs will be the one to really have the last word on which team ian will go. Since, as you mention we know the criteria: a french team playing euroleague it is an easy guess. This why i think the final criteria will be the coaching staff. that's why i was asking. In le havre spurs were able to set there own agenda for Ian and had extreml good relation with the staff
Pau-Orthez is a team with a great past and Gadou is a defensive minded coach, Pau-Orthez is the best defense in ProA : I'm sure that Spurs will be happy if Ian play with them.
After a quick search, I was wrong on who should play the euroleague and it's not sure that Pau-Orthez will be qualified.
Ian will not be here next season. I don't think he is even slated to play in the Summer League.
Their center this year is Hiram Fuller (he played a summer league with San Antonio and played with Noel Felix in college) but he will likely leave them at the end of the season. They have nobody to play center for the next season (for the moment).
That's the smart thing to do. Don't bring him too early and kill his chance at developing because he's to inexperienced to play decent minutes on a team like the Spurs.
Let him go to Slovenia, he will be a Champion there and get more tough games to finish. He, nonetheless, will have to get a paycut to do that.
But it is promised, he will be the best center in Europe the next season.
The Slovenian leagues are generally better than the French leagues right? I see nothing wrong with that.
Olimpija plays the Adriatic league, Slovenian league and Euroleague. That's 2 games a week. Adriatic league and Euroleague are both WAY BETTER then the French one.
Asvel and Pau are having hard times qualifying for Top 16. And they are, i'm repeating myself, WAY BETTER than other French clubs. There is a reason why Diaw and others were playing in Pau and Asvel, and not elsewhere.
Adriatic league isn't way better than the french league, maybe slighty better but nothing more (just look at euroleague results).
Euroleague is way better than the french league, but he will play the euroleague if he sign with a top team in France.
It's FALSE that Pau and ASVEL are way better than the other french teams. It was the case five yers ago but there are now something like 5 very good teams in the french league (Pau, ASVEL, Strasbourg, Nancy et Le Mans). There are too very good players in the other team who can give a though matchup for Mahinmi.
It's stupid to go for one year in Slovenia. Ian is only 19 years old, it's not like he is a vet who has played 10 years. He will need some time to be at ease with the new culture and the adriactic players and one year isn't enough.
I can only see 2 good solution for Mahinmi :
- Either 1 year in a top french team to play the euroleague + the french league.
- Either 2 years in Italy or Spain. He will have the time to adapt to the country and he will play in a championship who is way better than the french league or the adriatic league.
1.Results?
Top teams in Adriatic league from the past had deep financial problems. And still rich Serbian clubs had a strong opposition. Every club in the league has the finest center of his young generation. Ian is black and even more foreign, so he will be on target for most of his minutes.
2.He is young?
Young players need a good coach and great foundamentals. Olimpija gives just that. Sagadin would make a fierce warrior of anyone with the skills.
3.Diaw was a beast, and never got to show his potential even in France, until he played for Team France and the Suns. French clubs are not that good at making their players strive being the best they can be. Ian could improve his game exponentialy in a foreign hostile environment of the ex-Yugoslavia. In France he is just a talented youth with an NBA future. Here he will need to work as just to get to the bench.
4.Spain and Italy is where you get a big contract. But it's not a place to improve your game. Footwork does not improve while playing a lot of games. It's all training with a good coach. Sagadin is the best there is in Europe for young players.
1. I'm not sure Ian will improve more by playing against 20 years old seven footer than against a 6'8" 25 years old american player. French league lack size but there are a lot of warriors and some talented centers.
2. Pau-Orthez too. It's maybe the best BB school in France with a great coaching staff. As an example, Johan Petro has learned to play BB with Pau-Orthez.
3. False, french coach are quite good. Diaw left Pau-Orthez when he was 20 years old : he was too young to be a major contributor. Putting Ian in a hostile environement is the best way to destroy him. I don't see a foreign team investing a lot of time for a player who will leave them when he will be ready to contribute. In France, he isn't just a talented big with nba potential : his team wait some production from him.
4. I don't know Sagadin enough to judge if he is the best but don't underrate franch staff. You have good coach too in Italy and Spain. Though games are still the best way to improve your level, pratices aren't enough. Mahinmi won't sign a big contract he can just sign a 2 years deal, european teams know that he will soon play in nba.
Anyway, Mahinmi will likely sign with a top french team and it's the right choice : it will be a smooth transition for the nba.
stop screwing with the euro leagues, bring him over here
and let him practice and play with the big boys
Like Darko ?
You had to realize too that anbe team doesn't pratice a lot with 100 games played a year.
Mahinmi need to play to develop his game, not to be on the bench.
Id love it if Mahinmi came over and produce like Darko did once he finally got a chance in Orlando.
He needs to develop his game yes, but do it with the best coaching staff in basketball in San Antonio, or play with the developmental team in Austin.
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