My problem with Tony Parker

[George Gervin's Afro]

It has become an annual event come playoff time that Tony disappears. Teams have time to game plan for him and he has become a liability during the playoffs. Now save me his line last night because he got those points because he has the ball in his hands 80% of the time. I am extremely dissapointed in our coaching staff and Parker because we know whats coming and Tony struggles which leads to his moping around with an "oh well what can I do" look on his face. When he cannot penetrate and dish we , as a team, have a difficult time even getting a decent shot off. I wonder if our staff and team have the mentality that we are going to play the same way during the playoffs as we did in the reg. season and if it is not good enough 'oh well'. I am by no means blaming Parker for this loss but I am becoming tired of seeing our point guard become irrelevant during the playoffs which now has happened in round one. I wonder if I email Pop and mention to him that teams are going to take away the lane and make Tony a perimeter player and does he have any idea what we will do when this happens. I can accept losing when the other team just kicks are ass like the Kings are but I am very close to losing faith in Tony Parker..yes I know he was a "REGULAR SEASON" all star but at some point this guy is going to have to figure out how to help his team when he cannot penetrate and dish. I've got news for everybody , assuming we get beyond this round, Tony will struggle for the rest of the playoffs and I hope we are all ready for it.

[Gerryatrics]

My problem with Tony Parker is he's a point guard who wont pass. Every game I start yelling at the television because a shooter comes off a screen wide open but TP holds on to the ball and dribbles another 10 seconds off the clock, or instead of moving the ball and spreading out the defense, he takes it into the paint where the defense collapses so he's forced to try to kick it out to the perimeter though traffic where it's easily picked off. I have no problem with him attacking the basket and getting layups or hitting a teardrop runner, but he needs to stop taking jumpers and start passing the damn ball.

[ata]

While he is having 50% I have no problem with his shooting. Yes he could involve more teammates, however he rarely does that and we should be all aware of that.
Problem is poor offensive rebounding and in last game Finley's and Beno's percentage.

[pache100]

Don't lay this on Tony Parker. There are 12 guys on that team, and all of them have sucked (with the exception of Tim Duncan) for two whole games. You can't blame this kind of play on one person. They know better. They can play better. But, it's gonna take ALL of them.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Don't lay this on Tony Parker. There are 12 guys on that team, and all of them have sucked (with the exception of Tim Duncan) for two whole games. You can't blame this kind of play on one person. They know better. They can play better. But, it's gonna take ALL of them.

No I blame the loss on the lack of rebounding and the ability to defend Wells and Artest. If you had read my post no where did I lay this on Parker because he sucks in the playoffs period regardless of the opponent. My point is if we are going to have trouble defending this or anyother team our offensive effciency is going to have to be high and right now Tim Duncan is the only player to raise the level of his game. I don't blame manu either because Artest is that good of a defender.

[TDMVPDPOY]

free beno movement

[ducks]

see manu is saying mental he was not ready last night because of the bad turnover

and pop was trying to get manu to snap out of it

but we have a thread calling out tp

[implacable44]

FREE NVE - the bigger the battle the smaller the French contribution - get a little physical with Parker and he is through. What happened to that jumpshot ? - points in the paint? TOny Parker is the Spurs version of Peja -

[Rick Von Braun]

My problem with Tony Parker is he's a point guard who wont pass. Every game I start yelling at the television because a shooter comes off a screen wide open but TP holds on to the ball and dribbles another 10 seconds off the clock, or instead of moving the ball and spreading out the defense, he takes it into the paint where the defense collapses so he's forced to try to kick it out to the perimeter though traffic where it's easily picked off. I have no problem with him attacking the basket and getting layups or hitting a teardrop runner, but he needs to stop taking jumpers and start passing the damn ball.

His outside shot is still streaky at best. I agree, the way to beat the Kings is with ball movement... run them until they ask no more. We need TP to hold less the ball and look for an outlet fast. Either he penetrates and finishes at the rim, or he pass the ball fast. The penetration and kick is not working because the Kings are closing the paint and the passing lanes.

[pache100]

No I blame the loss on the lack of rebounding and the ability to defend Wells and Artest. If you had read my post no where did I lay this on Parker because he sucks in the playoffs period regardless of the opponent. My point is if we are going to have trouble defending this or anyother team our offensive effciency is going to have to be high and right now Tim Duncan is the only player to raise the level of his game. I don't blame manu either because Artest is that good of a defender.

Who said I was talking to YOU? I was using "you" in the collective sense. Quit being so sensitive.

[pache100]

see manu is saying mental he was not ready last night because of the bad turnover

and pop was trying to get manu to snap out of it

but we have a thread calling out tp

Exactly.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Who said I was talking to YOU? I was using "you" in the collective sense. Quit being so sensitive.

I apologize.I am at wits end with his disappearing act every year.

[MoSpur]

Barry should do more PG duties. Stick Tony at the 2 since all he does is shoot.

[ducks]

yeah that makes alot of sence to start that right now in the middle of the playoffs

maybe next year but not know
tp helped get them to this point playing point guard

[Ginofan]

TP isn't the problem. Sure more ball movement would be nice, but really the offense isn't the problem. Rebounds are killing us. We need aggression and we need to crash the boards on both offense and defense.

[MoSpur]

yeah that makes alot of sence to start that right now in the middle of the playoffs

maybe next year but not know
tp helped get them to this point playing point guard

There are a lot of teams that change things up in the playoffs. The Lakers are having Kobe play more of a PG role and they are up 3-1. Pop inserted Rasho in the starting lineup last night. Why not have Barry come off the bench and play more point?

[MoSpur]

TP isn't the problem. Sure more ball movement would be nice, but really the offense isn't the problem. Rebounds are killing us. We need aggression and we need to crash the boards on both offense and defense.

I totally agree. The Spurs have bigger problems than TP. The Spurs are getting out-rebounded by the Kings and are giving up too many points in the paint. I say throw Oberto in and let him go wild.

[Ginofan]

I totally agree. The Spurs have bigger problems than TP. The Spurs are getting out-rebounded by the Kings and are giving up too many points in the paint. I say throw Oberto in and let him go wild.

Yeah, throwing Oberto out there couldn't be any worse than what we've already seen. , he might just end up being a playoff hero...but he needs playing time.

[MoSpur]

Yeah, throwing Oberto out there couldn't be any worse than what we've already seen. , he might just end up being a playoff hero...but he needs playing time.

Agreed.

[Solid D]

Last night, TP took what was given to him...

and then he took almost everything else and tried to do it himself.

Manu's game was limited by two players: Ron Artest (primarily) and TP. A couple of times, the thought actually crossed my mind TP was freezing out Manu whether intentionally or unintentionally.

I expect TP to get back to being a floor general again Tuesday.

[1Parker1]

With Sacramento packing the lane and daring Parker to beat them with his outside shot the previous two games, Popovich thought his point guard had become too tentative. On Sunday, Parker heeded his coach's orders to shoot more. He made consecutive 20-foot shots in the first quarter and led the Spurs with 14 points at the half.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...4.da3a308.html

I also thought yesterday there was a problem with ball movement and that Tony was shooting waaaay too much. However, after reading the article above I guess he was just following Pop's orders. Defense and rebounding were more of a concern.

[implacable44]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...4.da3a308.html

I also thought yesterday there was a problem with ball movement and that Tony was shooting waaaay too much. However, after reading the article above I guess he was just following Pop's orders. Defense and rebounding were more of a concern.

yeah that is exactly what we want - TP shooting more of those broke jumpers - clang - clang - clang - clang - Tim is 7 for 11 and tony gets 20 shots? luckily he got some layups in there to be at 50% or it would have been realy ugly - clang -- clang - quote of the night when Parker finally hit a jumpshot from Doug COllins, " maybe that will help TOny PArker get his shattered confidence back".

point guards get assists - parker had 1 more than I did last night.

[Spurminator]

I'm glad Tony has the balls to shoot when no one else wants to. We've pined for that kind of player for years. And I'm guessing it was part of the game plan because Mike Bibby is awful on defense and therefore easy to exploit.

However, that kind of game plan takes others out of the game. I'd like to see more 4-down next game, but I'd also like to see getting Manu involved become a top priority.

[doldrums]

It's funny , but TP and Duncan can play alright, but we will still lose if Bowen and Manu are subpar. Both are very important whether they score many points or not.

[implacable44]

I'm glad Tony has the balls to shoot when no one else wants to. We've pined for that kind of player for years. And I'm guessing it was part of the game plan because Mike Bibby is awful on defense and therefore easy to exploit.

However, that kind of game plan takes others out of the game. I'd like to see more 4-down next game, but I'd also like to see getting Manu involved become a top priority.

has the balls? dude - they go under the screens on Parker for a reason - it is not a mistake that he is wide open to shoot jumpers.