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It's the fookin PO's for cryin out loud!!
Notebook: Mavs will ask NBA to review Marion elbow
12:26 AM CDT on Friday, June 2, 2006
From Staff Reports
The Mavericks will ask the league to review an elbow thrown by the Phoenix Suns' Shawn Marion early in the fourth quarter.
TNT replays seemed to show Marion catching the Mavericks' Adrian Griffin in the face or neck area.
"We'll see what the league says. Who knows?" Cuban said. "It's not like throwing a punch. ... But Griff came up to us and said, 'He got me good. Is there anything we can do?'
At that point, Cuban decided to send a video clip to the NBA.
"Marion, I've got a lot of respect for him," Griffin said. "He plays hard, and I was just playing hard defense. Sometimes, emotions get the best of us. ... He caught me a little bit in the chin. We'll see."
Chuck Carlton
Mavericks continue to make adjustments
The Mavericks had planned on making the adjustment, anyway, but when Devin Harris picked up two fouls in the first four minutes, it facilitated the Mavs' game plan of not playing Harris and Jason Terry together for long stretches.
That tandem had been very effective in the San Antonio series. Against the Suns, not so much.
Avery Johnson wanted to get Jerry Stackhouse on the court with either Terry or Harris but not both, and he stuck with that rotation through the first half, partially because Harris remained in foul trouble.
Eddie Sefko
Phoenix technicals spur Mavericks' run
If there was a turning point in Game 5, it came after Phoenix guard Raja Bell was called for a foul against a driving Josh Howard with 8:55 remaining and the Mavericks leading, 89-88.
Bell picked up a technical foul for arguing the play, and that was followed by another called on Phoenix coach Mike D'Antoni. Dirk Nowitzki made both free throws, beginning a 28-10 run.
"One technical can change a game," Mavericks swingman Adrian Griffin said. "But if you get two, that's two points and the ball. That's a big momentum swing."
A good ribbing never hurt anybody
Dirk Nowitzki has been getting an earful from his teammates for the last couple of days.
Sort of.
The star took some good-natured ribbing about his 11-point outing in Game 4.
"Everybody kind of got on him," Josh Howard said. "Everybody had a say. But Dirk's good at taking criticism."
Eddie Sefko
Suns' offense grinds to a first-quarter halt
Phoenix coach Mike D'Antoni said he wanted his team to take shots seven to 10 seconds into possessions in an attempt to dictate tempo. The Mavericks defense had other ideas in Game 5.
The Suns were called for three 24-second violations in the first 8:29, one of the contributing factors as the Mavericks built an early 10-point lead.
Chuck Carlton
Thomas, Nowitzki receive technical fouls
Dirk Nowitzki of the Mavericks and Tim Thomas of the Suns were assessed a double technical with 40.9 seconds remaining in the first half.
The two jawed at each other for several seconds, and Thomas appeared to blow a kiss to Nowitzki at the end.
At halftime, Suns assistant coach Alvin Gentry exchanged words with referee Jack Nies as the teams left the court.
Chuck Carlton
Bell feeling better, still not 100 percent
Raja Bell said he was making progress in his recovery from a partially torn left calf muscle.
He estimated that he was 75 percent before his dramatic return in Game 4 and about 85 percent before Game 5.
But Bell didn't have the initial impact in Game 5 that he did in Phoenix. He missed his first two shots before hitting a 3-pointer and drawing an offensive foul from Jerry Stackhouse.
Chuck Carlton
Dinner for two: Nash, Nowitzki have plans
Phoenix guard Steve Nash said he and buddy Dirk Nowitzki have continued their tradition of dinner on the days between games.
Nash even had Nowitzki to his house in Phoenix before Game 4. But basketball is off limits, for the most part.
"Sometimes you can't help it," Nash said, "but not so much about our series."
Chuck Carlton
Briefly ...
With Game 5, the Mavs made only their second playoff appearance in June. Games 6 and 7 of the 1988 Western Conference finals against the LA Lakers came in June, with the series ending June 4. ... Devin Harris picked up two fouls in the first 3:16 trying to defend Steve Nash and was replaced by Jerry Stackhouse. Harris' third came with 9:07 remaining in the first half, again guarding Nash. ... The Mavs also used Jason Terry and Darrell Armstrong against Nash in the first half. ... The Mavs made only one of their first seven shots.
http://www.dallasnews.com/cgi-bin/bi/gold_print.cgi
It's the fookin PO's for cryin out loud!!
So the league is supposed to review the play and do what? Suspend Marion for catching Griffin a little bit in the chin?"Marion, I've got a lot of respect for him," Griffin said. "He plays hard, and I was just playing hard defense. Sometimes, emotions get the best of us. ... He caught me a little bit in the chin. We'll see."
Let me know how that works out for you, Cuban.
Wait, wasn't Cuban complaining about the Spurs sending the punch in?
I guess it's OK when he does it...
Typical whining BS from Cuban and the Mavs
No, it means that Cuban will and whine to the league and force the refs to call closer fouls - probably more in the Mavs favor. The Refs probably get tired of Stern calling them saying, "Well Mark send it another tape, lets review it..."So the league is supposed to review the play and do what? Suspend Marion for catching Griffin a little bit in the chin?
Let me know how that works out for you, Cuban.
The refs as a whole have to be getting tired of that.
Assess him a flagrant foul. Every friggin team does this but Cuban just admits to it. I agree, that's it's the playoffs and is silly but all teams do this crap. Players only get so many flagrant fouls before they get suspended for a game. I could halfway understand it with any team but the Suns. No player on the Suns is ever gonna get too many flagrant fouls on him. They play very soft just like the Mavs used to.So the league is supposed to review the play and do what? Suspend Marion for catching Griffin a little bit in the chin?
Let me know how that works out for you, Cuban.
Marion should get at least 6 games...way worse than what DJ Moose did!!
Leonard that is gay, you want the suns to lose one of their best players, you definitely want the *************** going your way this year in the playoffs; its not like the elbow was intentional, like a certain mavs player who punched a certain spurs player in the nuts, and he only got suspended for 1 game, so are you saying that a punch to the nuts only deserves a 1 game suspension but a inadvertant elbow deserves 6? Come on Leonard, think straight
I'm pretty sure Leonard was kidding
Because spurs fans never whine about anything. This is the first tape Cuban has sent in since the rockets series last year. Teams send it tapes all the time. You spurs fans are ing idiots, it's hilarious how you bash a team and your own team does the exact same thing. The whining, the sending in tapes, people in SA media bashing Dallas which is why Cuba said stuff about the riverwalk.
This is so dumb. They were just fighting for position.
No call. Didn't Nash catch an elbow in game 4?
It's actually true. After the Terry suspension, Cuban came out and said he had not sent in a tape since the Rockets series last year (Yao's screens tape).
Just because Cube's says he doesn't, doesn't mean Dallas hasn't.
Oh, that's very true. I'm sure they send in the same number of tapes as every other team. The myth of Cuban's massive tape mailings needs to be dispelled, though. I'd love to see something Seinfeld-esque where Cuban accidentally puts a copy of "Cabana Boys 3: Shower Time" in a case addressed to the league.
I love how Cuban called the Spurs whiners for reporting the Finley/Terry incident the NBA, when he's now doing the same exact thing.
Only Cube can dispell this. He makes such a big deal about it - more than any other owner.
There is a notion around the league (fans, refs, players, coaches, etc) that when a questionable call is made, or not made, Cuban is going to send a tape in. He's his own worse enemy at times.
He's doing it because Griff and some of the coaches likely wanted to. If it wasn't for that, I don't think he'd be taking the time to be criticized by everyone for wanting to send in a tape. The Terry/Fin thing was a little more evident and really, I don't think anything will come from this.
BINGO.
That is not true. Have you been under a rock since then?
Then he was lying. Not surprisingly.
He may not be actually physically mailing the tapes in...but I don't see the difference in him calling up the league and requesting that they review tape. In a way, that's even more chicken ...because then he can stand up there and say, "I haven't mailed any tapes in since the Houston series last year."; and the Mavericks fans eat that up like candy. Gullible idiots.
Last edited by pache100; 06-02-2006 at 01:55 PM.
I've watched the play over and over again - I still see no elbow to neck/face contact and I'm not just being a homer. What I do see is Griffin pushing Marion and staring him down after the whistle was blown, which is the same reason Raja Bell received a technical later in the quarter... C'mon, Mark, when newfound Mavs homers Steve Kerr and Doug Collins are saying that you don't have a case with that play, then you can be a little off-base...
LMAO..."staring him down"...
What's so funny about an objective observation? Here... give me your address - I'll send you the clip...LMAO..."staring him down"...
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