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    5. timvp's Avatar
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    So who won?

    The winner will be determined by the gullup poll like it was last time.

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    Dammit I bet on Kerry by mistake. The in bent is supposed to be on top!

    Bush won this one, that makes 300 precious VBucks I wave squandered by mul asking!

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    Take ten seconds to read the bet before you press the submit button

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    I didn't watch most of it.....all the negativity and finger pointing is starting to wear on me.



    It did put my kids to bed early, though.




    I did bet on it, though. Just 'cause.

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    I didn't watch, but Fox said Bush won, so I bet on Bush.


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    The winner will be determined by the gullup poll like it was last time.


    hehehe I thought it was a typo the first time...I like your name better TimVP...kind of connotes the poll of the gullible...

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    Bush won, no contest.

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    Dang, CC!

    A run of bad luck or did you bet a lump sum?????

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    @ CC


    I just re-opened this thread to re-read that, that struck me kind of funny before...that's what I thought...




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    A run of bad luck or did you bet a lump sum?????
    hehehe...yeah...I shot it all on this one...never underestimate the gullibility of the average american...

    IMHO the gullup poll will show Kerry winning by a few points...

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    I was going to call it the gullup bull but I wanted to see who got it.


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    BTW...

    I partially figured out why neither one of these mother ers has a handle on real health care costs...

    I am probably the only one in this forum that writes health care checks every month to cover my employees and their families...if I am wrong feel free to correct me...

    When Kerry was talking about every american getting the "same" plan that congress gets and Bush said it cost *gasp* $7200 a year to provide that level of coverage I had an epiphany...

    the insurance companies ae losing their ass on the coverage they are giving congress to keep them insulated from the REAL world...

    My family rates range from $900 to $1600 a MONTH depending on how they are rated...and I shop the out of health insurance...

    *mumble mumble mumble*

    no wonder congress doesn't have a clue...

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    if I am wrong feel free to correct me

    I was responsible for it at my previous employer for about 7 years. I know very well how it all works...we had to go through benefits cuts, so there was some serious shopping around to get the most for less for us & our employees.

    It was in the manufacturing industry and yes, it was long before Bush was in office.



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    20 more minutes before voting ends.

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    in my case I have hung on till the bitter end...and watched my personal income drop every year as health care took a larger and larger chunk out of net profits...I still pay 100% of employees AND families but quite honestly don't know how much longer I can continue to do so...

    *sigh*

    I still think it is the right thing to do but at some point I know I will finally have to either change that or close the doors...health care as we know it has simply gotten too good and at the same time too expensive...

    *sigh*

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    We ended up switching from 80/20 to 50/50 .... but it was costs well above that that led to our demise.

    Switching to at least a partial employee contribution can help quite a bit and enable you to still offer the same quality of care. I think your employees would much rather keep their job, IMO.

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    Whottt, you are so damn lucky.

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    What? All of the board conservatives said that BUSH won?!!? Oh wait...they did the first two times, too.

    Oh well, whottt, at least you got some of your VBookie$$ back.

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    This was like taking candy from babies. Sorry I missed it.

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    I felt Kerry won the first two but I really thought Bush took this one. Just goes to show how opinions can differ.

    Maybe I am becoming conservative.

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    I am probably the only one in this forum that writes health care checks every month to cover my employees and their families...if I am wrong feel free to correct me...
    I write it every month. It's gone up a lot. We have Blue Shield of CA and some elected to go HMO. But since they don't have an HMO in Texas, I got to stay with a PPO.

    Don't get me strarted on what I write to 3 different unions each month.

    Dang..Lost my first bet.

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    Dang..Lost my first bet.
    yeah...I had to make up for the Texans losing in overtime last weekend...

    see...it's not "0" anymore... :p

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    pretty obvious this was on domestic issues, and we all know bush has no domestic policy

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