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I know it's easy to answer this looking back at it.
But you know how Manu plays. You know you need to be super conservative. Should pop have thought about taking Manu out for that one play, then bringing him back for the next offensive possession?
(Especially considering his play in Sacramento)
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ING DROP IT ALREADY.
Thanks.
We must move on..
Just a question, man.
This isn't Dr. Phil, we don't need to find ways to cope with our loss.![]()
No Pop should not have taken Manu out.
Nice sig.
Did Artest really say that?
Yes that was a direct quote however due to my occasional use of certain plant type materials I don't remember where I got it.
2 series later and we still have these threads?![]()
Hold on I'm trying to find the rewind button on this discussion.......for the bezillionth time...![]()
Could you slomo the part with my boobs jiggilng? kthnx
yeah you always wanna have your top/clutch players out in the waning seconds of the conference finals.
At which moment....i think there's several....![]()
With a Dallas miss, and Dirk did almost miss, you would want the best FT shooters on the floor for the ensuing Mavs auto foul. Since Manu is one of the best Spurs clutch FT shooters, (ha him Fins and thats it?) that is another reason why i think he had to be on the floor.
That being said, and with all due respect to Bruce Bowens D, given Fabs previous D on Dirk both in Game 3 and at the end of reg season combined with Fabs FT% (75-80%?), I would have gone with Fabs on Dirk for that final play. I know that seems unlikely but I'm only talkin this one play for the forementioned reasons. Fabs haters watch tape of Fabs D on Dirk before spouting your usual bandwidth wasting blather. Bruce seemed to make the choice 100% to fan Dirk into the middle, (either that or Dirks obvious push off following his spin reversal to get to the middle) as opposed to focing/sending him towards the corner. I think Bruce was expecting keyhole help D 100%. Oh that's right no one to fan him into as we h-a-d to play small ball.![]()
At any rate, i hear you Please_dont_ban_me, but with Pop reminding the whole team to NOT foul any shooter, Manu just blew it. timvp said in anther thread that he thought Manus court I.Q. is only average or above average and he needs to improve. I disagree, not with the improvement partHowever I've thought Manus court I.Q. is off the charts excellent up until this mega brain fart. I was blown away/shocked/stunned he did such a goober on the cerebreal front with the series and most likely Championship in the balance.
I didn't like my response about this subject, so I edited it. Please forgive.
Last edited by Solid D; 06-13-2006 at 06:46 PM.
Don't know when I've been so blue
Don't know what came over Manu.
Fouling Dirky-poo
And don't it make my brown eyes blue.
I'll be fine when this memory is gone.
I'll just smile all night long.
Say it isn't true
And don't it make my brown eyes blue
Tell me no secrets, tell me some lies
Give me some Laker Math*, more alibis.
Tell me you love me and Gnobs feeling betta
Say anything especially, goodbye to Bavetta
I didn't mean to treat you bad
Didn't know just what I had
But, honey, now I do
And don't it make my brown eyes
Don't it make my brown eyes
Don't it make my brown eyes blue*insider stuff
Actually i think he's on to something. Coulda shoulda woulda, but it makes sense. Why leave Manu in for a defensive possession up three with 22 secs left?
He's never done anything in situations like that but up
hmm...i bet PJ suggested this but pop ignored him
Manu needs to be out on the floor for as long as his legs hold out. He is fearless. He made some mental mistakes but they were mistakes borne of aggression which if other players had brought that same aggression there might not have been a need for those last minute heroics.
You never expect things to happen like that though so it's hard to know who to take out and who to keep in. Manu helped Duncan get them the lead back after being down 20 so since no one knew Manu would foul they had to keep him in.
I didn't even read any of these posts... who cares? It's over with.
Life goes on.
I was listening to George Gervin the other night with Stephen A Smith on "Quite Frankly", and he was commenting on how Manu plays. He said, "that players like Manu have only one gear and that is, HARD. They are great players for you to watch because they want to win so much, that they can either wind up winning the game for you or losing the game for you." I think that describes Manu the best way. I love Manu and I love that he never stops competing. If he had been healthier this year, who's to say what would have happened? I don't think anyone can fault him for playing his hardest. That call hurt, true, but I think it only makes you respect and acknowledge a player like him even more. Manu will always be a special player because of that.
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