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Maybe Rasho and Nazr... , send them Oberto, too.
Look at this article from HoopsWorld.com about Ben Wallace:
Ben Wallace (unrestricted) – There are two prevailing thoughts regarding Ben – one is that he does not like Flip Saunder’s system, and that he has decided to explore life elsewhere, the other is that Ben’s standoffish approach is more playing the cards to insure he gets a maximum contract. Its highly unlikely the Pistons let Ben walk, especially over money – but there are more than a couple of NBA sources who say its not a leap to believe the Pistons let Ben’s people shop him out and establish his value and make their decision from there. A source close to the Spurs said that if Ben wants to a Spur, they would answer that phone call – a deal sending Rasho Nesterovic and Manu Ginobili, gets the money right for Ben, but would such a package interest the Pistons enough to move their best defensive player?- HoopsWorld.com
Now that is just bullcrap. This is now the "Tell Off Hoopsworld For Their Lame Ass Staff" Thread.
Maybe Rasho and Nazr... , send them Oberto, too.
Nazr and Oberto and 2-3 picks for Wallace then Rasho to Jazz for Jarron Collins.
Rasho and Manu for Ben? No thanks. We'll keep Ben!
They can have Rasho... Manu we keep!
good luck finding any spurs fans who would trade manu for ben straight up.
Last edited by K-State Spur; 06-19-2006 at 12:12 PM.
Did Menudo reunite?
Where do these rumors come from? I am 99.9% sure that Pop would never even think of trading away Manu...even for Ben Wallace.
What's wrong with that deal?
Honestly, because of Flip's system, I would do it. Rasho has played for Flip before, and a 3-guard rotation of Manu, Chauncey, and Rip? Beautiful.
It's really not that bad for the Spurs, either. The Spurs get a defensive force in Ben Wallace they haven't had at that center spot since David Robinson. And there's more than enough shooting guards out there that can be replaced. If Tony Parker hadn't emerged earlier this season, I wouldn't do that trade from a Spurs standpoint. This gives cap relief, and sets up a situation where San Antonio is able to contend immdiately, with salary cap relief down the pike.
Last edited by Darrin; 06-19-2006 at 11:45 AM.
Then you need to stop going there man.
99.9 percent of what they say there is complete bull anyway.
I think Manu is almost untradeable. He's such an icon among San Antonio fans worldwide. You love his winning at ude, toughness and class. I would NEVER do that deal if I were the Spurs. That's a joke to me.
Now if Manu were to become an unproductive icon, well its a business...
If Pop wasn't going to trade Manu for Tracy McGrady two years ago, he's not going to trade him now for Ben Wallace.
Oh damn, this sucks. Anyone know where I can preorder a Manu Pistons jersey now?
If Ben doesn't want to re-sign with Detroit, Pistons will get nothing near the level of Ginobili (if they get something). The best thing to do for Detroit is to try to re-sign Ben.
I think Pop would like the deal.
Manu would be in the east and San Antonio would have the weapon to go against and frontcourt anywhere. Pop would then coach only the young backcourt of potential PGs and rotate Barry, Finley, Bowen, Saunders at SF and SG. Not a bad deal.
Tim would have his team back and TP and TD could be primadonnas again. Personaly this is where we have the problem. Duncan wants to win and that means not to play against Manu.
Rasho and Manu in Detroit. Hours of fun just thinking about the plays that Detroit team could win with sober Rasheed and aggresive Manu. Personaly i think the trade wouldn't change the game of either teams. Detroit would still have the problem of a weak coach. Spurs would still want some veteran around Tony Parker running the ball where something gets ugly. But Spurs would, I would bet, deal with Parker issue a lot better.
No way. The Spurs would not send Manu to the Pistons. Manu does too many intangibles. Its not just the scoring. Its so much more. There isn't another player in the league like Manu. There are better scorers and better offensive players than Manu at his position, but none of those does the things Manu does.
Agreed. If Ben can be had for a combination of players including Rasho, Oberto and anyone else not named Duncan, Parker Ginobili, Bowen or Finley, then it would make sense.
Notice I didn't include Barry. I'm saving him for the J.R. Smith deal.
If Ben doesn't want to go back to Detroit, why would we just give them Manu as a thank you gift? We'd be taking a step back to 2002 while giving Detroit a free pass to the finals for the next four years.
I'll start growing the 'fro.
oh god, no thank you.rotate Barry, Finley, Bowen, Saunders at SF and SG. Not a bad deal.
What are you drinking....
Manu is not an ordinary two guard. He is so different from a lot of players. He made a dumb mistake, but I'd still want him as a Spur. Ben is a free agent. He can sign anywhere he wants. The Spurs don't have to give up anything to acquire him. However, they can do a sign and trade to relieve themselves of some contracts.
That has never kept the Spurs (or any other team that I know of) from trading anyone if they thought it was the best strategic and financial move for the team.
I would love to have Ben Wallace on this team. I think playing for Pop would be an eye-opening and humbling experience for him (don't misunderstand, I'm a BIG Ben fan, but he has never played for anyone like Pop...LB doesn't count). I think he would be successful here. I think the fans (and the team) would love it. But, from a strictly personal standpoint...there's not a Spur that they would take, that I'm willing to give up for him.
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