back court violations

[Duncanoypi]

Can someone confirmed that you can catch a pass even when you're in back court and not to be called as back court violations?...

Is there any rule like that now in the league?...

Thanks!

[ducks]

http://www.nba.com/media/rule_book_2005-06.pdf

RULE NO. 8
OUT-OF-BOUNDS
AND THROW-IN

{...snip...}

Section III—The Throw-In

{...snip...}

e. Any ball out-of-bounds in a team’s
frontcourt or at the midcourt line
cannot be passed into the backcourt.
On all backcourt and midcourt
violations, the ball shall be awarded to
the opposing team at the midcourt line,
and must be passed into the frontcourt.
EXCEPTION: During the last two
minutes of the fourth period and/or any
overtime period, the ball may be passed
anywhere (frontcourt or backcourt) on
the court.


So No Violation

[texlawman]

He postioned himself in the frontcourt with the ball and then crossed the backcourt line. Violation. I didn't expect any ref to call it though. Refs don't decide games at the end with whistles. Oh wait, they did. My bad.

[MadDog73]

He postioned himself in the frontcourt with the ball and then crossed the backcourt line. Violation. I didn't expect any ref to call it though. Refs don't decide games at the end with whistles. Oh wait, they did. My bad.

They do now... Thanks, Cuban, for ruining basketball.

[picnroll]

He postioned himself in the frontcourt with the ball and then crossed the backcourt line. Violation. I didn't expect any ref to call it though. Refs don't decide games at the end with whistles. Oh wait, they did. My bad.

wtf are you talking about? He caught the ball in the backcourt.

[LEONARD]

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I didn't think twice about a backcourt violation...

I did think twice about him stiff-arming Terry on the sideline, but that's a tough one to call late in a game like that...

[picnroll]

LEONARD must be AJ bringing up and then saying "I didn't think twice" about it.

[nbascribe]

He postioned himself in the frontcourt with the ball and then crossed the backcourt line. Violation. I didn't expect any ref to call it though. Refs don't decide games at the end with whistles. Oh wait, they did. My bad.

It was in the last two minutes. Read the EXCEPTION part of that rule. He has to be in a position of ready.

Get over it.

[SPARKY]

He left his feet in the frontcourt, caught the ball, and came down with it in the backcourt. All the above snippet from the rule book states is that the ball can be thrown anywhere on the court without a violation. That is not the same issue as establishing position with the ball once it is thrown in from the side in the frontcourt and then going into the backcourt.

[LEONARD]

LEONARD must be AJ bringing up and then saying "I didn't think twice" about it.

[picnroll]

He left his feet in the frontcourt, caught the ball, and came down with it in the backcourt. All the above snippet from the rule book states is that the ball can be thrown anywhere on the court without a violation. That is not the same issue as establishing position with the ball once it is thrown in from the side in the frontcourt and then going into the backcourt.

It's borderline and in real time it would be tough to call. Nevertheless dip Cuban didn't know the rules and, after the Mavs - Spurs series, if the Mavs lose the le on bad calls it's all the sweeter to me.

[Holmes_Fans]

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slowed down it looks like he catches the ball with a foot down in the frontcourt, then lands and takes 14 steps before the dribbles.


and manu is no longer the kind of floppers, dwyane wade is. Just look at his last shot, that's his game right there.

[picnroll]

slowed down it looks like he catches the ball with a foot down in the frontcourt, then lands and takes 14 steps before the dribbles.


and manu is no longer the kind of floppers, dwyane wade is. Just look at his last shot, that's his game right there.

Soory but your replay clearly shows he got the ball in the backcourt.

[Holmes_Fans]

No, it shows him catching the ball with one foot down in the front court.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

No it doesn't, watch again.

[SPARKY]

No, it shows him catching the ball with one foot down in the front court.

Actually, it shows what I saw which was that he caught the ball in the air after he had been in the frontcourt and then landed in the backcourt with it. Generally, when a player is in the air it is where he had been last that matters.

For example, in a situation in which a player with the ball in the frontcourt passes the ball to a 2nd teammate who has jumped from the backcourt and has not landed in the frontcourt, then that is a backcourt violation because the 2nd teammate had not yet established himself in the frontcourt.

In no shape or form did Wade catch the ball in the frontcourt with his foot down. What he did do is catch the ball after he had jumped from the frontcourt into the backcourt. That much is certain.

Upon seeing the clip for the 5th time, in slow motion, he may have caught the ball and landed his feet at the same time in the backcourt. May have.

It doesn't strike me as a horrible or obvious call.

[LEONARD]

PLEASE STFU about this play, Mavs fans...there's nothing there people!!

Damn...

[kalikot_boy_kr]

hey guys!!!! mavs are always commit violation!!........suck!!!

[LEONARD]

hey guys!!!! mavs are always commit violation!!........suck!!!

[Trainwreck2100]

[Mavs<Spurs]

Actually, it shows what I saw which was that he caught the ball in the air after he had been in the frontcourt and then landed in the backcourt with it. Generally, when a player is in the air it is where he had been last that matters.

For example, in a situation in which a player with the ball in the frontcourt passes the ball to a 2nd teammate who has jumped from the backcourt and has not landed in the frontcourt, then that is a backcourt violation because the 2nd teammate had not yet established himself in the frontcourt.

In no shape or form did Wade catch the ball in the frontcourt with his foot down. What he did do is catch the ball after he had jumped from the frontcourt into the backcourt. That much is certain.

Upon seeing the clip for the 5th time, in slow motion, he may have caught the ball and landed his feet at the same time in the backcourt. May have.

It doesn't strike me as a horrible or obvious call.

I agree that it was extremely close and it is hard (even on replay) to determine this, but what you saw is what I saw.

Just for clarity and for my own knowledge, if Wade jumped from the frontcourt, caught the ball in mid air and landed in backcourt, is that not a violation (over and back)?

[SPARKY]

Yes, that would be a violation. Of course, it's not clear one way or the other after reviewing it in slo mo.

[Kori Ellis]

Just for clarity and for my own knowledge, if Wade jumped from the frontcourt, caught the ball in mid air and landed in backcourt, is that not a violation (over and back)?

Actually I still don't think that would be a violation.

Because I believe in an out-of-bounds play under 2 minutes the player isn't in an established position until he catches the ball. So I think it's irrelevant that he jumped from front court and caught it midair.

[picnroll]

Just for clarity and for my own knowledge, if Wade jumped from the frontcourt, caught the ball in mid air and landed in backcourt, is that not a violation (over and back)?

I don't think you can be considered to have possesion of the ball until you land with the ball secured.

[Trainwreck2100]

How is position established if the ball isn't live?