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I'm sure other teams would offer more.
The league doesn't think much of Udrih, and I don't think Barry is enough to get it done.
now that peja is gone in indiana, im sure they want a veteran shooter. and i know that the front office in indiana doesnt see eye to eye with Stephen Jackson. If I'm right, this trade would work salary-wise, and I think jackson would fit in well AGAIN with the spurs. he's developed a very decent offensive game, averaginv about 18 ppg since he left SA in '03.....his defense wasnt bad when he was here either. he knows the system well, and works good with tim duncan. the combonation of Jackson,Duncan,and Ginobili worked very well. Even if his contract might be a little big, its better because hes still young, and is still getting better. he could become part of the core for the spurs. i believe he can be Bowen's replacement when he ends up retiring,even though we can never replace bowen's defense. some of you might think im crazy, but oh well. now,beno would be gone, but that opens the door for Speedy Claxton, or someone like Chucky Atkins. I'm not sure that Jackson would go from being a starter to backing up Bowen, but if he was on the bench with Speedy and Finley, thats a potential 45 points off the bench combining just them 3 players. I know many of you wouldnt like jackson because of turnovers, but Pop probably wouldnt let him handle the ball that much anyways, so theres no worry there.
I'm sure other teams would offer more.
The league doesn't think much of Udrih, and I don't think Barry is enough to get it done.
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Don't be too sure. Barry + Beno may not have a ton of value, but not only has Jackson underperformed his contract from Indiana's standpoint, he's been a locker room problem as well.
I'm not so sure that anyone else is lining up to bring him in.
He has?
I haven't really seen anything about him being a cancer.
the value barry has is his contract
pacers need to start over
beno is cheap also
I would not do the deal but I could see why the pacers would do it
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...tephen+jackson
Stephen Jackson also has been considered possible trade bait, but his return could depend on his at ude. He played in all but one game and averaged 16.4 points this season, but Bird said Jackson spent too much time jawing with officials and taking poor shots.
Jackson also blamed rookie teammate Danny Granger for allowing Vince Carter to score too easily on a key play late in Game 5 against the Nets.
"It's up to Stephen to do the right thing," Bird said. "I don't like some of the things he did this year. If he's back here, which I expect him to be, there's going to be some changes. I don't like our fans booing our players, but some of the things Stephen was doing out on the court frustrated me. I was embarrassed at times."
Bird said coach Rick Carlisle deserves some of the blame for the team's lack of discipline and that Carlisle should expect more from his players.
Oh, c'mon.
That's a locker-room problem? What if Granger DID give up that basket too easy...is it wrong for SJax to hold him accountable for it? AS for him "jacking up 3's" that's wat he does. When Bird got him...that's what he did.
I don't see what Larry Bird wants. SJax is what he is, I dont' think him making those comments or shooting 3's is detremental to the team in anyway. If they wanted a different type of player, they should have gone after a different type of player...SJax takes big shots (and sometimes bad ones) and he is a physical player who loves to run his mouth and get in peoples faces.
If it were just him, it would probably be no big deal. But I think they're afraid they're going to be Portland if they don't get control of their team.
They shipped out Artest already, and Jackson, Tinsley, and even O'Neal have been discussed as guys that a lot of people there would like to see go.
We remember Jax as a guy whose clutch shooting outweighed his occasional stupidity. I think Indiana perceives a lot more of the stupidity than the clutch.
I would trade anybody on this team outside of the big 3 for him, honestly.
he does not address a need
do you think he can guard dirk
So the Spurs are too good to bring back Jack. Great. He's there for the taking. Buy low. It's not like SA is a great free agent haven. Spurs fans seem to forget the search for a small forward circa '99.
I'm not sure about that, but I wouldn't be surprised if Beno and Barry could get it done.
At that price, the only real downside to the deal is his contract.
I didn't say we shouldn't bring him in -- I think it could be a good deal for us. My point was that I don't think Indiana is going to be holding out for top dollar.
As much as Finley or Manu can, sure.
Parker
Manu
SJax
Duncan
Whoever
That lineup would be nice for years to come. Stick a shot-blocking center who rebounds in there and I just might make a mess on my belly.
what need does jackson solve
the only might be youth
but spurs did not lose because they were old
+Toughness
+Outside shooting
Those are two that come to mind.
Parker
Manu
SJax
Duncan
Nazr
With Speedy/Finley/Horry/Bowen/Javkotas/others off the bench. Omg I'm gonna blow my wad.
28 year old swingman who can score and defend. Not afraid of crunchtime. His contract has 4 years and $27.3 mil left on his contract. Not that cheap, but for someone who can score and play like he can that's reasonable. Considering that the Spurs would be hard pressed to land a similiar talent for less than $50 mil it's not that bad.
Spurs fans act like the perimeter rotation is just fine. Bowen, Finley, and Barry are well into their 30s. Manu is best when not counted on to play heavy minutes. If you bring Jack to SA then he gives you plenty of minutes and scoring and defense.
barry shots better then him
if barry played the way he did after he was almost traded
we would not be talking about this
however he did not
stephen jackson is not going to take bowen's place
will he come off the bench
will manu be ok permantly coming off the bench?
Bowen's starting spot is no longer sacred.
One thing
Please don't stick at him 2. I will boycott I swear, watching him try to push the ball upcourt is painfull. =( SJax for all that money you make 1) get some dental work 2) learn how to dribble
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