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    Hedo Layup Drill ShoogarBear's Avatar
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    Really.

    Why settle a soccer game by playing a completely different game that bears no relationship to soccer?

    Why not just put up a set of parallel bars and settle it on the basis of gymnastics?

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    It really just becomes "guy shoots and goalie hopes to get lucky"

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    Really.

    Why settle a soccer game by playing a completely different game that bears no relationship to soccer?

    Why not just put up a set of parallel bars and settle it on the basis of gymnastics?

    puritaines léchez mes boules françaises

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    It really just becomes "guy shoots and goalie hopes to get lucky"

    Ummmm no... there is a little more to it than that....

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    Ummmm no... there is a little more to it than that....
    To some extent. They might still be shooting had Buffon not gotten lucky with Trezeguet hitting the crossbar and not getting a Zidane-like bounce. Just as Brazil got over in the 94 Final when Roberto Baggio sailed the ball over Taffarel's head.

    There are certainly skills that apply to PK's, but it does seem odd to use a very limited sort of play to decide a match that is so well played and so hard fought. The traditions of soccer are about as ironclad as any and the powers-that-be have determined that PKs should be the ultimate tie-breaker. It's not feasible in a World Cup setting to have replays (like you might in the FA Cup) and I don't think you can ask those guys to just keep grinding out minutes without further subs utes or long, long breaks.

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    I was telling my step-dad and brother before the game, if it doesn't get to Penalty kicks then France will win, if it gets there then Italy will win. I guess I was right. Italy's goalie > France's goalie.

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    I was telling my step-dad and brother before the game, if it doesn't get to Penalty kicks then France will win, if it gets there then Italy will win. I guess I was right. Italy's goalie > France's goalie.

    The goalie's had nothing to do with the penalty kicks, it hit the crossbar for christ's sake

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    Italy's goalie is still > France's goalie


    I guess you missed all the bad ass saves he made during the game?????

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    I agree it's like going to a field goal contest to settle football games or a home run contest to settle baseball games, but the games would last forever otherwise. What would be an alternate way to go?

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    I was telling my step-dad and brother before the game, if it doesn't get to Penalty kicks then France will win, if it gets there then Italy will win. I guess I was right. Italy's goalie > France's goalie.
    If the penalty is shooted the way it should be then the goalie got nothing to say.

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    I hate penalty kicks also but they are exciting too, they are the most stressful and nerve-wrecking thing in any sport.

    Plus, if you watch carefully, usually the team that has the upside by the end of the game + has the colder-blood usually wins. Which should be the case.

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    I agree it's like going to a field goal contest to settle football games or a home run contest to settle baseball games, but the games would last forever otherwise. What would be an alternate way to go?
    Go four against four and the goalies. And Keep alternating players with unlimited reserves until someone scores. Easier to get shots on goal with so few defenders to beat.

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    I hate penalty kicks also but they are exciting too, they are the most stressful and nerve-wrecking thing in any sport.

    Plus, if you watch carefully, usually the team that has the upside by the end of the game + has the colder-blood usually wins. Which should be the case.
    Plus they are pissed off. Then you don't think about :" what will happen if I miss" . You just go and shoot it.
    Plus - you can't let the golie get into your head - that frickin important.

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    I saw a lot of PK's this weekend. I went to see our local team, the Portland Timbers, play an exhibition against Coventry City of England on Saturday and it ended in PK's too.

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    The goalie's had nothing to do with the penalty kicks, it hit the crossbar for christ's sake
    If you are taking a penalty against barthez you are confident of scoring because barthez is small and not a good penalty saver, if you are taking one against buffon you can try and tell yourself that you will score but there will always be something telling you he might save this because he is big and a good penalty saver. that can put alot of players off

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    They should do it like high school shootouts...35 yd line...5 seconds to get a shot off on the goalie. At least give the goalie a chance to make a play...

    Kinda like NHL hockey...

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    Yesterday's PKs proved to me that Jans Lehman is the world's best goalkeeper right now.

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    Yesterday's PKs proved to me that Jans Lehman is the world's best goalkeeper right now.
    ??? Buffon is the best goalkeeper in the world right now

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    PK's deciding the outcome of soccer games is almost like FT's deciding the outcome of an NBA playoff game 7

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    But what are they supposed to do, play into the night? I mean, as time goes on, the hardr it will be to score because players get tired. Although, I am all for making pks's a little more challenging.

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    PK shootout is under review by FIFA.
    It really sucks.
    One alternative suggested is that 1 of the 2 teams meeting in any elimination round, to have an advantage (in case of a draw), according with results in previous matches. It would be unfair somehow because of different opponents, but the penalty shootouts are worse.

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    FIFA is too conservative, they would never change pk shootouts to something else.
    I think pks are not a matter of luck, it takes a lot of balls and skills to score a pk, but football is not about the best pk shooter but the best team.

    Go four against four and the goalies. And Keep alternating players with unlimited reserves until someone scores. Easier to get shots on goal with so few defenders to beat.
    I was thinking something similar the other day. My idea, similar to a pk shootout, but more football oriented:

    * Each team has three chances to score goals (five would take too long).
    * In each oportunity the team that defends has their two best defenders (who cannot be subs uted) and goalkeeper; the team that attacks do it with their best forwards, 2 in each opportunity, 6 in total.
    * The team that attacks kicks off in the midfield. If the ball goes out of bounds, the goalkepeer grabs the ball or a given time (let's say 30 seconds) expires then you lost your chance to score and the other team takes their turn.
    * The team that defends can only commit a certain amount of fouls during each of the three oportunities. if they exceed the number of fouls, then the team attacking has a pk.
    * Yellow cards, red cards, pks and offsides are still valid.

    It would be similar to a counter attack. I think it's a pretty good idea. If you find any flaws then tell me.

    Playing with this new rule to decide games you would be testing all the team, the goalkepper, the defenders and the forwards. The best team with the best combination of goalkeeper/defender/forward would win (For example, Argentina would have destroyed Germany with this rule and we would have been the wc champions ).

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    ??? Buffon is the best goalkeeper in the world right now
    Buffon never got close to stopping any of those PKs. When Germany went to PKs vs. Argentina, Lehmann was spot on every single time.

    Thats why I say Lehmann > Buffon

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    "Overtime shootout, that's the soccer equivalent of deciding the NBA Finals by a game of HORSE!"


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    Go four against four and the goalies. And Keep alternating players with unlimited reserves until someone scores. Easier to get shots on goal with so few defenders to beat.

    Actually FIFA is considering making a big change in the sport....

    They are considering a reduction in the number of players per team from 11 to 10... of course this would open up the spacing and should allow for more scoring opportunities... but it would also take more of a physical toll on players...

    Sounds good... but I don't know how many people would embrace this new concept.

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