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Foreign players who are drafted can sit out a year and then the NBA team that drafted them will lose their rights.
One of the things that seems odd to me is how the Spurs can draft someone like Javtokas, choose not to sign him, and yet no other NBA team can sign him.
Can someone explain if any of this isn't correct:
1) 1st round draft picks receive guaranteed contracts, so generally that person will be on a roster somewhere
2) 2nd round draft picks do not get guaranteed contracts. So if the team that drafts them (or has rights) after training camp decides they don't want to sign them right now, they must be waived, at which point another NBA team can pick them up of waivers or as an FA.
3) Foreign players don't seem to have this restriction. They can be drafted but can be held indefinitely away from any other NBA team. Why is that? It doesn't seem fair that they can be locked out of the NBA on the whim of a single GM.
With such a shortage of centers, it seems Javtokas or Scola might be able to sign with another NBA team.
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Foreign players who are drafted can sit out a year and then the NBA team that drafted them will lose their rights.
2005 NBA 1 28 Ian Mahinmi
2002 NBA 1 26 John Salmons University of Miami
2 27 Luis Scola
2001 NBA 1 28 Tony Parker
2 27 Robertas Javtokas
So Mahinmi, Scola, and Javtokas have sat out at least a year each. Do we no longer have rights to them?
Sitting out means playing no pro ball at all.
SIT OUT, as in not play anywhere.
They haven't sat out. They have to not be under contract with any team anywhere for a year.
OK, I get that.
But it still seems strange to me that for instance,
1) if the Nets don't need a point guard, but say,
2) Atlanta desperately needed a point guard that the Nets drafted 3 years ago
3) and is the best point guard in Euroleague but not as good as Kidd or Williams
4) the Nets never have to transfer rights, even though the drafted player desperately wants to play in the NBA, effectively never allowing him to play in the NBA
Say he calls up the Nets GM and says he wants to play now, but the Nets don't need or want him, and he insults the GM's momma. He's screwed for life and has no recourse as far as I can tell.
This doesn't seem fair.
seriously that n sucks, waste of draft picks if your not goin to use them.
When the Spurs learn they have to pay them.How can Spurs draft a player but not use them?
It might not seem fair, but they know the rules when they enter the draft. If they don't want to enter the draft, then they don't have to do so -- then they can just shop themselves to any NBA team any time.
But if they get drafted, the only way to get away from the NBA team that has their rights is to sit out (or if the team trades their rights).
Last year we would've taken Scola for sure, but his buyout was astronomical.
It's all about timing.
What I don't quite get is that 1st round draft picks seem to have salaries structured entirely based on where they were drafted, so as far as I understand it, if we had drafted Scola or Javtokas in the first round there'd be no room for negotiation here, they'd just have to take the standard rookie contract if they want to come.
So by being drafted in the 2nd round they can actually make more money in their first contract than by being drafted earlier. There are other disadvantages to being drafted later (like no guaranteed contract) but it just seems weird to me that you can gain some bargaining power by being drafted later.
TIME FOR STERN TO TAKE CONTRAL
AND MAKE RULES ON MONEY ON SECOND ROUND DRAFT PICKS TO HELP THE SPURS
STERN HATES THE SPURS
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When the Spurs drafted these players, they thought that they'd be able to bring them over with the LLE like they did Manu. Now for some reason these Euros want big guaranteed money up front so it's a lot harder to bring them over.
yeah the euro's are getting paid more over seas
and then some are having success in the nba and now they want the big money
they are starting to act greedy like american players
That introduces an interesting twist. Why would any Euro pro enter the draft unless they are guaranteed to be a 1st round pick? The only difference between being drafted in the 2nd round and being an FA is that if you're drafted, then you're restricted to hoping a single team will sign you instead of being able to be signed by anyone.
There must be some other benefit of being drafted in the 2nd round instead of being an FA.
Are you sure that's right?
I thought that foreign players were automatically eligible for the draft when they reach 22, and only players that had previously been draft eligible (because they declared, or because they were 22) and had not been drafted became free agents.
You're right. Once you're 22, you're automatically in. Tiago Splitter faces that pretty soon.
Happens every year. Not everyone who gets drafted gets signed:
Drafted by Spurs for Seattle
Chris Carrawell – Duke – 2000 1st Team All-American
The year 2000 was a crummy year to be an All-American also. Half of the selections that season aren’t playing in the NBA right now. We begin things with another Blue Devil, Carrawell. He is the rarest exception of a 1st Team All-American selection – he didn’t play a single minute in the NBA despite being a 2nd round pick of Seattle. To add insult to injury, Duke won a National Championship the year AFTER he graduated! Carrawell now plays in the ballers graveyard that is the ABA, averaging 19.6 points and 5.7 boards for the Rochester RazorSharks.
atleast nba now has a development league
Carrawell wasn't NBA quality. By all rights, two of our foreign stock are, who aren't in the NBA.
Yeah that's what I'm saying. When they are of automatic draft age (22) and when they aren't drafted they can just go shop themselves to the NBA. Basically I'm saying that no one forced them to be in the draft.
But... their age forced them to be in the draft.
Wasn't Javtokas drafted at 21? Didn't he want to be drafted?
Also, if a player doesn't want to be drafted and makes it clear he's not coming to the NBA if he's drafted, then I don't think any team would draft him. These players wanted to be drafted. Scola was dying to be drafted. He got mad he didn't get drafted in the first round.
The old paradigm was a player would eventually come over to play with the team that drafted him.
The new paradigm: whatever the the Spurs are doing.
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