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the debate. Why are your friends stupid? Just because they disagree with you? Some friend you are.
I am a member of Facebook.com, mainly because it is a good way to keep in touch with friends. However, I also use it to try to start debates with friends about their beliefs using the new facebook news feed, which shows everything that all of your friends have done; such as what groups they joined, what they added to their site, and most importantly, what campaign views they promote.
I was looking through some of my friends views, and almost every single one of them contain a few of these, "abolish smoking cigs, against the adoption of kids by gay couples, anti-gay marriage, modest is hottest, george bush rocks, yes on prop 9, protect the sanc y of marriage."
I put the Bush one, the abolish cigs, and the modest is hottest as a joke, those beliefs annoy me, but are not hate inspired like the other 3.
Why do people, especially in the South, have such an issue with these subjects?
I would like to pose these two questions, to put them up for debate.
1. Why should gays not be allowed to adopt?
2. Why should gays not be allowed to marry?
Lets roll.
the debate. Why are your friends stupid? Just because they disagree with you? Some friend you are.
It's the south. It's about some God horse . It's all about religion and hate. That's the combination, believe or not.
What they keep forgetting is that God has issues he has to deal with.
He is a single parent and he knocked up another man's woman.
My friends are not stupid because they disagree with me, as I pointed out by saying that the Bush, modest is hottest, and cig ban beliefs only annoyed me.
The only beliefs that make a person stupid are the beliefs that are inspired by hate, and the reasons they think those things are for that very reason.
And why must religion and reason always be at odds with one another?
Is it not possible to be religious and have an independent thought on occasion?
Sorry, should have consolidated the last few posts, but one more thing.
What gives us the right to legislate morality?
and
Whos morality are we to use? There is no common morality.
Potential girlfriend turned out to be a neocon, eh?
I'm from Texas and I'm indifferent about the gay marriage/adoption. Half of heterosexual couples can't even raise their kids right... who's to say that 's would do any worse? if anything, the pressure to be viewed as good parents would make them better parents than most straight couples.
also, who gives a if they get married? it's just a le... again... what is it? 60% divorce rate? sanc y of marriage my ass. what people do in their own homes (as long as it doesn't endanger the lives of others) is their own damn business.
So by proxy you're saying your friends hate cigarette smoke and are therefore stupid?The only beliefs that make a person stupid are the beliefs that are inspired by hate, and the reasons they think those things are for that very reason.
Damn them for not wanting to be exposed to something that has been scientifically proven to contribute to lung cancer.What a bunch of stupid, hateful friends.
Actually I am engaged, and she is having the same problems I am. We don't want friends that agree with everything we say, or even want all of our friends to agree with something that we think....but you know....having one friend who agreed with one thing would be a bonus.
I just have a hard time understanding people who have these limited viewpoints, and would appreciate an explanation. So I have posed the questions to the brilliant minds of Spurstalk.
....sorry, I couldnt say that with a straight face.
So by proxy you're saying your friends hate cigarette smoke and are therefore stupid?
Damn them for not wanting to be exposed to something that has been scientifically proven to contribute to lung cancer.
I think you are having some problems understanding, or reading, or thinking....one of the 3.
I said I do not think theyre stupid for the reasons including cig banning, I think they are stupid for the hate inspired views pertaining to gay marriage and adoption.
Well, actually I think one of them is stupid for the cig view because she actually does smoke as well.
And there came a resounding cry of "AMEN."
My anti-smoking stance is based upon my hate of cigarettes and my hate of smelling like an ashtray when I leave a bar.
Well, my problem with that is that the law does not care what you want to smell like when you go somewhere.
If that were the case, there would be laws banning certain perfumes, laws demanding that you shower every day, and laws banning the eating of certain noxious substances.
We do not make laws because people do not enjoy the byproduct of what other people are doing. There has to be a very good reason to restrict the freedom of individuals, and what someone may or may not like is completely irrelevant.
the best political view, is to have no political view at all.
i might agree with you Jman, but I just get too much pleasure out of starting arguments with my own.
If I gave up political views then life would be a very boring waste of time.
I don't care how other people smell as much as I care about how other people make me smell. Everything you stated does nothing to my smell. If someone wiped a turd on me and made me stink, I'd probably have a case for simple assault if nothing else.I like not having lung cancer, and do I not have the freedom to not smell like ? (Double negative added for emphasis.)We do not make laws because people do not enjoy the byproduct of what other people are doing. There has to be a very good reason to restrict the freedom of individuals, and what someone may or may not like is completely irrelevant.
So.....
Where are the hordes of answers to my two questions?
Im assuming aggie is out of commision and out of the race because he is having a hard time wrapping his mind around the fact that I was joking about my friends being stupid for liking Bush, or banning cigs, but that I simply am annoyed by those views.
I would hope that by saying it again he would get it, but I will not create any such false hopes because he failed to grasp it the 1st two times.....
Though 3rd try is a charm...
The sexual issues?
I'm not against either.
You go to bars, people enjoy smoking in bars, thus, people smoke in bars.
Now, lets change that to....
You go to bars, people enjoy not showering before going to bars, thus, people in bars smell like rancid body odor.
So, should people adopt that policy and view, should we ban the practice because it causes you to smell?
not that having a political view is wrong... but having one based on a right wing or left wing ideology is what i am against. arguments are fun and all but there comes a time when it becomes less about presenting your views to win and more about arguing for arguments sake and not giving up any ground on the subject.
Again, you're talking about other people. I don't smell like other people's BO after standing in the same room with them.
that made no sense.
ing typers... typing and what not.
i would think that the argument to ban smoking would have less to do with the odor side and more to do with the cancer causing side effects of second hand smoke....
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