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    Do not read this if you have not seen the movie!!!




    When Billy Costigan goes back to Costello's place after Queenan is killed, and Costello's man(the one that got shot and died) is telling Billy that he gave him the wrong address and Billy was at the right address(in other words he knew Billy was the rat), he asked Billy if he knew why he did not say anything.

    Why did he not tell on Billy? I missed that.

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    He may just not have thought much of it at the time. A lot of went down.

    I don't think it was ever given a full explanation, so I don't think you missed anything.

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    Was he not also a rat??

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    Do not read this if you have not seen the movie!!!




    When Billy Costigan goes back to Costello's place after Queenan is killed, and Costello's man(the one that got shot and died) is telling Billy that he gave him the wrong address and Billy was at the right address(in other words he knew Billy was the rat), he asked Billy if he knew why he did not say anything.

    Why did he not tell on Billy? I missed that.

    The guy gave Billy the wrong address, so he thought that was the reason he was late.

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    In other words, he thought Billy was saving his ass by not saying he gave the wrong address

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    it was because he was undercover for the boston pd himself. they explained that when they found the body and were covering it on the news. basically every damn person in the movie was a rat in some shape or form.

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    Was he not also a rat??

    That was never really clarified either. Nicholson's character said that the police had named him as an insider to trick him into thinking the rat was dead. It makes sense... But it seemed to be left up to the viewer to decide.


    A lot of things in the movie weren't really wrapped up very nicely. In some ways I liked that, in other ways I thought it was a bit sloppy. The envelope DiCapprio's character gave to the psychiatrist, for example. I imagine we're supposed to assume it contained contact info for Wahlberg's character, but that was not spelled out.

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    it was because he was undercover for the boston pd himself. they explained that when they found the body and were covering it on the news. basically every damn person in the movie was a rat in some shape or form.
    I thought they were just saying that in the media to pretend that HE was the real undercover cop, not Billy. in other words since that guy died they used him as the scapegoat.

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    The envelope DiCapprio's character gave to the psychiatrist, for example. I imagine we're supposed to assume it contained contact info for Wahlberg's character, but that was not spelled out.
    i'm almost certain that the guy who died was a rat and that nicholson's comment about the red herring were just him being paranoid of the media/police department.

    that's the one part of the movie that really irked me. i wanted to know what the damn envelope contained... i reckon it held the recordings (because dicaprio didn't know who the shrinks boyfriend was) and contact info for marky mark.

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    That was never really clarified either. Nicholson's character said that the police had named him as an insider to trick him into thinking the rat was dead. It makes sense... But it seemed to be left up to the viewer to decide.


    A lot of things in the movie weren't really wrapped up very nicely. In some ways I liked that, in other ways I thought it was a bit sloppy. The envelope DiCapprio's character gave to the psychiatrist, for example. I imagine we're supposed to assume it contained contact info for Wahlberg's character, but that was not spelled out.
    it did bug me a bit about the envelope. I wanted to see what was in it. But I'm guessing it held proof to Matt Damon's character being the rat, and who to show it to. I also have to wonder why the black cop didn't bring Mark Wahlberg (i need to learn the character's names lol) with him at the end, if Billy had asked him to (as he said to him "Why didn't you bring Officer Dingum?" or whatever his name was).

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    I thought they were just saying that in the media to pretend that HE was the real undercover cop, not Billy. in other words since that guy died they used him as the scapegoat.
    but the fact that he didn't tell on costigan kinda proves that he was a cop and once he found out costigan was an UC he couldn't turn on one of his own.

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    So the envelope had information for Marky Mark (and the funky bunch) that lead him to take care of business at the end??

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    but the fact that he didn't tell on costigan kinda proves that he was a cop and once he found out costigan was an UC he couldn't turn on one of his own.
    I don't know if I'm just remembering wrong or what... but didn't Billy almost try/or did finish that man off? he got all scared when the guy told him he had given him the wrong address. wouldn't billy then try to save him, not kill him? I mean if they were both cops, you'd think he wouldn't get all freaked out by it

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    So the envelope had information for Marky Mark (and the funky bunch) that lead him to take care of business at the end??
    most likely ... but l.ike what's been said before... it wasn't cleared up so we really don't know... when i first saw those paper feet thingies i thought it was gonna be the cleaning lady

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    This was a freaken great movie!!

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    I don't know if I'm just remembering wrong or what... but didn't Billy almost try/or did finish that man off? he got all scared when the guy told him he had given him the wrong address. wouldn't billy then try to save him, not kill him? I mean if they were both cops, you'd think he wouldn't get all freaked out by it
    costigan pulled out his gun like he was about to kill him before he could tell on him.. but then he gave his whole "why do you think i didnt tell on you" speech and croaked.

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    costigan pulled out his gun like he was about to kill him before he could tell on him.. but then he gave his whole "why do you think i didnt tell on you" speech and croaked.
    I'll have to watch the movie again... I was almost sure that Billy was relieved once the man died too... I was thinking that was a bad guy. oh well there are alot of questions about that movie still!!

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    I'll have to watch the movie again
    i'll pick you up @ 7.

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    Yeah I'm leaning towards he wasn't a rat.

    I interpreted "Why didn't I tell on you" as regret, not a hint as to his real motives.

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    i'll pick you up @ 7.

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    These aren't the droids you're looking for jman3000's Avatar
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    that means youre paying right?

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    IMO, Costello's man was not a rat...he simply:

    A. ran out of time to tell on Billy and did not say anything earlier b/c he was not sure until he talked to him>>>very possible
    B. befriended Billy and that in combination with his ensuing death (different state of mind) made him not say anything>>>possible

    ...there is no doubt in my mind that he was not a rat.

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    No, he was not a rat, but WTF did he not tell on Billy??? The fact that he asked the question in the first place to Billy just pisses me off, because they did not answer the question in the movie.


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    No, he was not a rat, but WTF did he not tell on Billy??? The fact that he asked the question in the first place to Billy just pisses me off, because they did not answer the question in the movie.

    A or B in my previous post is your answer, why does it have to be more specific than that.

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    A or B in my previous post is your answer, why does it have to be more specific than that.

    Because the movie should have not left us hanging, whereupon we have to accept your questionable theories, that is why.



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