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    Ain't over 'till its over MaNuMaNiAc's Avatar
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    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/03/sub....ap/index.html

    NEW YORK (AP) -- A quick-thinking commuter saved a young man who fell on the subway tracks by pushing him down into a trough between the rails, allowing an approaching train to pass over them, police said.

    The 18-year-old man had some kind of medical problem Tuesday and fell onto the tracks, which are a few feet below platform level, police said. Wesley Autrey, of Manhattan, saw him fall, jumped down onto the tracks after him and rolled with him into the rut between the rails as a southbound train was coming in.

    Autrey said he initially tried to pull the man up to the platform but had to decide whether he could get him up in time to avoid both of them getting hit.

    "I just chose to dive on top of him and pin him down and pin myself down," he said. (Watch how shallow the rut is )

    The train's operator saw someone on the tracks and put the emergency brakes on. Two cars of the train passed over the men -- with about 2 inches to spare, Autrey said -- before it came to a stop.

    The subway trough, which is used for drainage, is typically about 12 inches deep but can be as shallow as 8 or as deep as 24, a New York City Transit spokesman said.

    Neither man was hit by the train, police said, and Autrey, who had his two young daughters traveling with him, refused medical attention. The rescued man, whose name had not been released, was taken to a hospital, where he was in stable condition.

    Onlooker Patricia Brown said Autrey, a Vietnam War veteran, "needs to be recognized as a hero." Others cheered him and hugged him outside the train station.

    The incident took place around 12:45 p.m. Service on the line, which runs between the southern tip of Manhattan and the Bronx, was suspended for about 45 minutes.

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    No question this guy is a hero, if he isn't I don't know who is...

    Right?

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    It's In The Numbers 1369's Avatar
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    How'd he fit his balls under the train?

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Awesome.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    How'd he fit his balls under the train?
    LOL


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    wow. that's real courage!

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    I think if you have to wonder if the guy was courageous or stupid, well that's the measure of a hero...

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    The inarguably courageous part was that he did something.

    What he did was arguably stupid, hoping the clearance of the undercarriage was more than the thickness of himself plus the saved guy. The undercarriage just snagging his clothes and both of them would be dead.

    I hope some insanely super wealthy person in NYC, there are 1000s of them, rewards this guy so he can quit night shift work.

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    The inarguably courageous part was that he did something.

    What he did was arguably stupid, hoping the clearance of the undercarriage was more than the thickness of himself plus the saved guy. The undercarriage just snagging his clothes and both of them would be dead.

    I hope some insanely super wealthy person in NYC, there are 1000s of them, rewards this guy so he can quit night shift work.
    I think we sort of agree, the fact that what he did may have been stupid is what makes him a hero, too many people would have thought of their own safety first, and tried to analyze if it was the smart thing to do, this guy just went out there and saved someone elses life, he didn't think about anything else but that....

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    To risk your life when you have at least two young children to support is a difficult ethical question, the "horns of a dilemma"

    I lose my and the person's life, and my two children are without a father and provider.

    I let the victim die, but my two children still have their father and provider.

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    What he did was arguably stupid, hoping the clearance of the undercarriage was more than the thickness of himself plus the saved guy. The undercarriage just snagging his clothes and both of them would be dead.

    Are you ever optimistic about anything???


    It takes a special kind of person to do heroics acts to save others while endagering themselves. This man was definitly special

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    How'd he fit his balls under the train?

    I just read this....

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    Yeah SPECIAL ED!

    Just Kidding!

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Are you ever optimistic about anything???


    It takes a special kind of person to do heroics acts to save others while endagering themselves. This man was definitly special
    I was thinking the same thing. Boutons would find a way to ruin Ice Cream.

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    He'd complain about it having too much chocolate, too much vanilla, too many crumbled cookies, too much cookie dough, etc and then end with how ice cream leads to diabetes and obesity....

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    I was thinking the same thing. Boutons would find a way to ruin Ice Cream.
    He wouldn't ruin it, he'd just that it was cold.

    And the process used to make it was causing global warming, the corporation producing it utilized an undo ented workforce in sweat shop conditions and was in collusion with other ice cream producing en ies to keep prices artifically high while wages are kept below a living standard so the GOP contributing CEO's could line their pockets with the blood of the worker and the scam profits off the books all while the repug controlled government turns a blind eye.

    And it's all President Bush's fault.

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    He wouldn't ruin it, he'd just that it was cold.

    And the process used to make it was causing global warming, the corporation producing it utilized an undo ented workforce in sweat shop conditions and was in collusion with other ice cream producing en ies to keep prices artifically high while wages are kept below a living standard so the GOP contributing CEO's could line their pockets with the blood of the worker and the scam profits off the books all while the repug controlled government turns a blind eye.

    And it's all President Bush's fault.

    you are a genuis.


    and yes that guy is a hero.

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    What's the big deal? We've all seen Indiana Jones, James Bond, and Batman do this a few times before.

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    Richard Gere did a version of this in the Jackal...he stould in between two subway cars going in opposite directions.

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    "This man was definitly special"

    Did I say he wasn't?

    Would you die for stranger in an act with very high risk of killing both the stranger and yourself and leave your kids to fend for themselves?

    It's serious question, not that anybody here gives a flying .
    How do slice the responsibility to a stranger in mortal danger vs. the responsibility to your kids?

    1369, go yourself and all your strawmen and red herrings.

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    I was just in the New York subways 2 wks ago and I was looking down betw the rails at the crawl space and I told my son that if someone pused him onto the tracks or if he fell, to lie down betw the rails and let the train go over him.

    This is ironic.

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    I was just in the New York subways 2 wks ago and I was looking down betw the rails at the crawl space and I told my son that if someone pused him onto the tracks or if he fell, to lie down betw the rails and let the train go over him.

    This is ironic.

    Seems more like a coincedence rather then ironic.

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    coincedence doesn't look like it's spelled correctly.

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    Nostradamas Jr.
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    "This man was definitly special"

    Did I say he wasn't?

    Would you die for stranger in an act with very high risk of killing both the stranger and yourself and leave your kids to fend for themselves?

    It's serious question, not that anybody here gives a flying .
    How do slice the responsibility to a stranger in mortal danger vs. the responsibility to your kids?

    1369, go yourself and all your strawmen and red herrings.

    If everyone who thought about the actual consequences and dangers of their potential act of heroism, then the world would be even more ed up than it is.

    My definition of a hero includes going above and beyond normal expectations of goodness, bravery, courage and nobility.

    Good to see yours, Boutons...hope I am never in need when you are present.

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    Seems more like a coincedence rather then ironic.
    perhaps you are right, but it still is weird that this happened right after I thought about it.

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