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    Yes!

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    Well, at least now we have proof that the Pro Bowl is meaningless and absolute ing garbage.

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    Absolutely pathetic. I hope this isn't really true, and you're just trying to be funny.

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    where did you hear this from?

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    Check NFL.com, he's right there in the roster.

    Pro Bowl is now complete garbage.

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    Well, at least now we have proof that the Pro Bowl is meaningless and absolute ing garbage.
    exactly.

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    He's going because Steve McNair stepped aside so Vince could go in his place.

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    He's going because Steve McNair stepped aside so Vince could go in his place.

    There are still more deserving QB's then both McNair and Young. Pro Bowl is garbage.

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    well, how many other QBs declined to participate aside from McNair? im sure that Brady and Pennington, who are the only other deserving QBs over VY had to of declined participation as well if Young is in over them. we cant just assume that they took Young over Brady. im pretty sure Brady declined to play, because he had a hurt shoulder or something. and Pennington always finds a way to get hurt as well

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    well, how many other QBs declined to participate aside from McNair? im sure that Brady and Pennington, who are the only other deserving QBs over VY had to of declined participation as well if Young is in over them. we cant just assume that they took Young over Brady. im pretty sure Brady declined to play, because he had a hurt shoulder or something. and Pennington always finds a way to get hurt as well

    Brady indeed declined. But let's take a look to see if Pennington was the only other one more deserving:

    By QB rating:

    Manning 101.0 - in the pro bowl
    Huard 98.0 - snuffed
    Palmer 93.9 - in the pro bowl
    Rivers 92.0 - hurt
    Brady 87.9 - declined
    Losman 84.9 - snuffed
    Pennington 82.6 - ????
    McNair 82.5 - declined
    Carr 82.1 - snuffed
    Garrard 80.5 - snuffed
    Roethlisberger 75.4 - snuffed
    Frye 72.2 - snuffed
    Plummer 68.8 - snuffed
    Harrington 68.2 - snuffed
    And finally, Vince Young at an astonishing, eye-popping, 66. ing 7.

    Pro Bowl is garbage.

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    Huard coulda got em in the bowl, possibly...

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    Out of all the QBs ahead of VY in the ratings game, who won more games as a starting QB?
    I just wondering, since no one here thinks a W is more important than a high rating.
    For instance, what was MRI Pussy Leinart's QB rating and his W/L record as a starting QB?
    How many TD and total yds of O did all those QBs have compared to VY? How many vet QBs did worse than VY?

    Summation:
    VY burned some people so bad in college that they can't get over it. All he does is continue to WIN.

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    Out of all the QBs ahead of VY in the ratings game, who won more games as a starting QB?
    I just wondering, since no one here thinks a W is more important than a high rating.
    For instance, what was MRI Pussy Leinart's QB rating and his W/L record as a starting QB?
    How many TD and total yds of O did all those QBs have compared to VY? How many vet QBs did worse than VY?

    Summation:
    VY burned some people so bad in college that they can't get over it. All he does is continue to WIN.


    Ah Christ, are you gonna make me look all this stuff up? Aw it, give me a minute.

    Oh, and I didn't have a problem with Young in college, I just started disliking the NFL version of him.

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    Out of all the QBs ahead of VY in the ratings game, who won more games as a starting QB?
    I just wondering, since no one here thinks a W is more important than a high rating.
    For instance, what was MRI Pussy Leinart's QB rating and his W/L record as a starting QB?
    How many TD and total yds of O did all those QBs have compared to VY? How many vet QBs did worse than VY?

    Summation:
    VY burned some people so bad in college that they can't get over it. All he does is continue to WIN.

    Oh, and Leinart is in the NFC, why would we compare his numbers?

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    Out of all the QBs ahead of VY in the ratings game, who won more games as a starting QB?
    I just wondering, since no one here thinks a W is more important than a high rating.
    For instance, what was MRI Pussy Leinart's QB rating and his W/L record as a starting QB?
    How many TD and total yds of O did all those QBs have compared to VY? How many vet QBs did worse than VY?

    Summation:
    VY burned some people so bad in college that they can't get over it. All he does is continue to WIN.

    it, too much work.


    I will point out though that when Vince Young was winning games this season, he did so with very little pressure as the team didn't have any chance to make it to the playoffs. However, going into the final week of the season, when the pressure was on as there was a legitimate (yet outside) chance the ans could make it, he went 15 of 36 with 2 picks and a 37.7 passer rating.


    The pressure was just too much for him..............alright, I'm reaching on that statistic, but I still think this just proves that the Pro Bowl is garbage. There were better QB performances in the AFC that would have merited getting into the pro bowl before VY.



    TAKE FAN VOTING OUT OF ALL STAR GAMES!!!!

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    Brady indeed declined. But let's take a look to see if Pennington was the only other one more deserving:

    By QB rating:

    Manning 101.0 - in the pro bowl
    Huard 98.0 - snuffed
    Palmer 93.9 - in the pro bowl
    Rivers 92.0 - hurt
    Brady 87.9 - declined
    Losman 84.9 - snuffed
    Pennington 82.6 - ????
    McNair 82.5 - declined
    Carr 82.1 - snuffed
    Garrard 80.5 - snuffed
    Roethlisberger 75.4 - snuffed
    Frye 72.2 - snuffed
    Plummer 68.8 - snuffed
    Harrington 68.2 - snuffed
    And finally, Vince Young at an astonishing, eye-popping, 66. ing 7.

    Pro Bowl is garbage.
    after reading this list, and the fact that you think the QB rating alone is what gets players into the pro bowl shows your extreme lack of football knowledge. sure, his rating wasnt good, but he damn near led that team into the playoffs after the team started a whopping 0-5. to make it harder, the ans are in the AFC, who is loaded with a lot of solid teams that can make the playoffs. if the ans were in the NFC, they would have probably had a 10-6, or 11-5 record and easily made the playoffs. Vince Young led the ans to nearly do what people that was absolutely impossible, no matter who the QB was. VY is FAR more valuable to his team than any of those other QBs you listed as being "snuffed". plenty of QB's can put up decent numbers, but it doesnt mean they are Pro Bowl material. like J.P. Losman, or David Carr. if you really think they are more deserving than VY, you are a ing moron.

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    Out of all the QBs ahead of VY in the ratings game, who won more games as a starting QB?
    I just wondering, since no one here thinks a W is more important than a high rating.
    For instance, what was MRI Pussy Leinart's QB rating and his W/L record as a starting QB?
    How many TD and total yds of O did all those QBs have compared to VY? How many vet QBs did worse than VY?

    Summation:
    VY burned some people so bad in college that they can't get over it. All he does is continue to WIN.
    agreed. its sad to see some people that consider themselves "knowledgable" fans, but dont realize that the most important thing for a QB to do is win games, and thus they lead themselves to think that David Carr is more deserving of a Pro Bowl birth than Vince Young. idiots...

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    Oh, and Leinart is in the NFC, why would we compare his numbers?
    Since Leinart is in the NFC, he EASILY should have put up FAR better numbers than Vince Young, especially considering how ty the NFC is, and all the offensive talent he has around him (Fitzgerald, Boldin, Edge, etc...) on the other hand, the ans next best option to VY is Travis Henry, whom no one gives a about. however, despite those cir stances, he put up passing numbers that were SLIGHTLY better than VYs, but VY had far better running numbers, and most importantly, Leinart was not able to lead the Cardinals to wins, the way Vince Young did.

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    TAKE FAN VOTING OUT OF ALL STAR GAMES!!!!
    i agree, but im sure coaches would have voted him in far before even considering voting for ing JP Losman, David Carr, and Jake Plummer. you are truly delusional.

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    Stretch, when did you get so angry?

    Really, I just don't like Vince Young. I think he's an arrogant jackass with absolutely no intelligence. So sure, I'm probably reaching by throwing out passer ratings but still, it helps me to sleep at night.

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    after reading this list, and the fact that you think the QB rating alone is what gets players into the pro bowl shows your extreme lack of football knowledge. sure, his rating wasnt good, but he damn near led that team into the playoffs after the team started a whopping 0-5. to make it harder, the ans are in the AFC, who is loaded with a lot of solid teams that can make the playoffs. if the ans were in the NFC, they would have probably had a 10-6, or 11-5 record and easily made the playoffs. Vince Young led the ans to nearly do what people that was absolutely impossible, no matter who the QB was. VY is FAR more valuable to his team than any of those other QBs you listed as being "snuffed". plenty of QB's can put up decent numbers, but it doesnt mean they are Pro Bowl material. like J.P. Losman, or David Carr. if you really think they are more deserving than VY, you are a ing moron.

    Man, why all the hate?

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    it, too much work.


    I will point out though that when Vince Young was winning games this season, he did so with very little pressure as the team didn't have any chance to make it to the playoffs. However, going into the final week of the season, when the pressure was on as there was a legitimate (yet outside) chance the ans could make it, he went 15 of 36 with 2 picks and a 37.7 passer rating.


    The pressure was just too much for him..............alright, I'm reaching on that statistic, but I still think this just proves that the Pro Bowl is garbage. There were better QB performances in the AFC that would have merited getting into the pro bowl before VY.



    TAKE FAN VOTING OUT OF ALL STAR GAMES!!!!
    Usually I think you make good posts, and never really disagreed much with your posts but your kidding right? You realize fan voting in the Pro Bowl is only 1/3, the reason T.O., the leading vote getter for the Pro Bowl recievers, didnt get in. Dont blame this on the fans. Rivers was going to go, Brady declined, Roethlisburger had 23 picks, Pennington threw 5 more tds than Vince in 3 more starts, and when you add Vinces 7 rushing tds, the only guys that scored more are the 2 other guys there and the 2 that declined. And dont give me that Pro Bowl is garbage . I watched Peyton throwing balls to Chad Johnson, Andre Johnson, Wayne, Harrison, Gates and Gonzales, oh and LT coming out of the backfield, yeah, they really screwed that lineup up bad

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    Usually I think you make good posts, and never really disagreed much with your posts but your kidding right? You realize fan voting in the Pro Bowl is only 1/3, the reason T.O., the leading vote getter for the Pro Bowl recievers, didnt get in. Dont blame this on the fans. Rivers was going to go, Brady declined, Roethlisburger had 23 picks, Pennington threw 5 more tds than Vince in 3 more starts, and when you add Vinces 7 rushing tds, the only guys that scored more are the 2 other guys there and the 2 that declined. And dont give me that Pro Bowl is garbage . I watched Peyton throwing balls to Chad Johnson, Andre Johnson, Wayne, Harrison, Gates and Gonzales, oh and LT coming out of the backfield, yeah, they really screwed that lineup up bad


    Alright, you and Stretch win.

    you guys.

    Seriously though, you guys are right, I'm reaching. I'm letting my bias against Vince Young get to my posts about him. Same reason I never bet on the Broncos, don't gamble with your heart instead of your head.

    I am a little upset at Stretch calling me an idiot though, he's gotta know that I'm reaching for an argument.

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    What makes Vince Young anymore of an arrogant jackass than Reggie Bush?

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    ^^Im ,not saying yoyr wrong on anything other than the fan voting. I realize if Vince was another qb that couldnt run he would never get the accolades that have come his way. Im just saying that we both know that J.P. Losman (although he started playing great second half of the year), or David ing Carr deserve to go in because of strictly #s. Carr was one of the worst qbs I have ever seen this year. Vinces worth is in much more than #s, thats why the coaches put him in

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