Official James White update thread

[yavozerb]

PLAYER POS MIN FGM-A 3GM-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOT AST PF ST TO BS PTS
James White 40:50 7-12 0-1 9-12 1 1 2 1 1 1 2 0 23

Austin 87 Bakersfield 85

[Bruno]

http://www.bakersfield.com/136/story/92782.html

While O'Bryant was trying to get the feel for it, another NBA castaway from this season was feeling it, and perhaps demonstrating that there really is a difference in the talent of the two leagues. James White, who started the year with San Antonio, scored 23 points for the Toros, with a variety of shots and strong moves to the basket -- 16 in the first half during which time the Toros, supposedly the worst team in the D-League, made the Jam look foolish while building a 19-point lead.

[mountainballer]

wow, White quickly becomming one of the top scoreres of the D-league is quite good news.
one question: why can't someone like him, who could jump out of the building, not get more rebounds? bad timing? bad positioning? afraid of contact?

[101A]

wow, White quickly becomming one of the top scoreres of the D-league is quite good news.
one question: why can't someone like him, who could jump out of the building, not get more rebounds? bad timing? bad positioning? afraid of contact?

..property of the Spurs?

[ducks]

do a search on james white



yes he is

[Mr. Body]

I hope he starts rebounding more, but it sounds like Austin overwhelmed Bakersfield in the first half, although only won by 2. I wonder if that was more of a fast-paced game.

[yavozerb]

I hope he starts rebounding more, but it sounds like Austin overwhelmed Bakersfield in the first half, although only won by 2. I wonder if that was more of a fast-paced game.

Hopefully the boards will pick up but it looks like white is being aggressive since he got to the free throw line 12 times and made 9. I also hope his defense is adequete enough for the spurs concept.

[Mr. Body]

Hopefully the boards will pick up but it looks like white is being aggressive since he got to the free throw line 12 times and made 9. I also hope his defense is adequete enough for the spurs concept.

One of his strengths apparently is defense. Good effort, lateral mobility, etc. Bowen doesn't rebound much, either, but White seems to be a better scorer. The 9/12 from the line is a bit under his capabilities, too.

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/200.../boxscore.html

I can't believe Troy Bell dominated this game, but I suppose he was getting his revenge on the team that waived him.

[Das Texan]

Glad to see White cant rebound worth a still.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Fri 4 vs. Albuquerque
MINS 37:48
FG 4-8
3PT 2-3
FT 5-6
REBS 2
ASTS 5
STLS 3
FOULS 2
TO 6
BLKS 0
PTS 15

[koopa]

smh, he's a sf/sg he's not a center/power forward, why the are y'all expecting a load or rebounds from him?? he's doing good from what i can see, but yet some of y'all refuse to look at the good and just focus on stuff that really doesn't matter

[TDMVPDPOY]

i say we trade him + barry to knicks for david lee

[Das Texan]

smh, he's a sf/sg he's not a center/power forward, why the are y'all expecting a load or rebounds from him?? he's doing good from what i can see, but yet some of y'all refuse to look at the good and just focus on stuff that really doesn't matter

he wont be called upon to be a scorer on this team.

[koopa]

if we are calling on him to be a rebounder we are in deep ....i'm not saying he's going to be called on to be a scorer, he's gonna pretty much play bowens role, and his role is to defend not go after rebounds, that is tims and and whoever the is playing center for us job.....

[ChumpDumper]

After a completely awful MLK showcase, White had a pretty good game against the Tulsa 66ers. I had to leave midway through the third, but he was forcing things much less on offense and even led the team with four assists. Did a good job guarding Alan Anderson when the game was still in question and was effective when he was switched onto Will Conroy or doubling a big man. He only got 2 boards, but the Toros have been killing their opponents on the boards lately, so it didn't make mush difference.

Conroy was solid but clearly frustrated with his crappy big men. Mike Hall was the only worthwhile big they have; he's a tweener with a good outside shot and (usually) decent rebounding.

BJ Elder scored over 20 in the first half for the second game in a row, ending with 32. A little short for the NBA and plays no defense, he could make bank in Europe.

Jamar Smith was put in the starting lineup again and had a good all-around game with 23 points, 8 boards and 2 blocks.

Loren Woods got another double-double with 14 points, 10 rebounds and 2 blocks, but damn he is so soft on offense he makes Rasho look good. The one time he did try to dunk, Frans "Franken" Steyn simultaneously found his aggressive side and fouled him hard.

http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/200.../boxscore.html

[ChumpDumper]

Another good performance by White tonight. 16 points, 7 rebounds and 6 assists. Some nice D as he's starting to draw different perimeter assignments depending on which teammates are with him on the floor. Seems like the Toro guards trade off big rebounding nights, and the team continues to dominate on the boards. The whole team was moving the ball extremely well in the first half and got out to a 21 point lead. White got most of his assists from penetrating and kicking. Tulsa coach Joey Meyer made some great adjustments at halftime and forced alot of turnovers with fullcourt presses and constant harassment of the Toro ballhandlers, and the game was tied the end of three. White and Jamar Smith combined to get the lead quickly back to 7, and they Toros never gave it up again thatks to some timely putbacks and hustle play from a previously quiet BJ Elder.

The Toros only had eight players suit up tonight. Kris Clack and Brad Buckman were in street clothes and Scott Merritt was nowhere to be seen for the second game in a row.

Frans Steyn had a cheering section of like 20 people in red and yellow T-shirts wih his name and number on them, including Ty Detmer of all people.

http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/200.../boxscore.html

[Kori Ellis]

The Toros only had eight players suit up tonight. Kris Clack and Brad Buckman were in street clothes and Scott Merritt was nowhere to be seen for the second game in a row.

Disciplinary reasons it seems.

Frans Steyn had a cheering section of like 20 people in red and yellow T-shirts wih his name and number on them, including Ty Detmer of all people.

[Leetonidas]

for those 7 boards.

[ChumpDumper]

Disciplinary reasons it seems.

Yeah, he might be pissed about lack of playing time lately, but his play has been pretty poor lately. I talked to the team president for a little while during the game but he claimed to know nothing about it. He did mention that there has been alot of player movement lately and a trade could be possible. If that happens I hope they would be getting another big man in return, since Loren could be called up at any time. Of course Merritt could just be waived if Jeff Hagen has healed up.

[leemajors]

i caught a bit of the game on the radio, didn't white have 9-10 pts in the first quarter?

[ChumpDumper]

The paper says nine in the first seven minutes. I'm sure it's right; it was just a result of the impressive ball movement and alot of standing around by the 66ers.

[timvp]

ChumpDumper, are there going to be anymore Toros games on NBATV? White looked horrible in the two games I saw ... horrible to the point that the NBDL looked like it was too high of a level for him.

Good to hear he's doing better. However, BJ Elder isn't anything close to an NBA player and he seems to be outplaying White most nights. Have you seen a game this year where White is far and away the best player on the court?

[ChumpDumper]

There should be more Toro games on at some point since they're showing two a week, but the schedule isn't really shown until the week of the games.

As for his being the best on the floor, tonight was probably the night he was closest to being far and away the best. It looked like he was going to take over the game in the fourth just as it looked in the beginning of the game, but he just seemed to trail off a bit and allowed the more steady performers like Bell and Smith to come ot the fore again. The thing about White is he looks like he's going to require a ton of structure to maximize his obvious talents. He's on a team that hasn't set a decent pick all year, one that is going to make more creative one-one-one scorers like Elder look better on most nights. The ball movement in the first quarter was the best I had seen all year, but I'm tempted to chalk it up to the 66ers being completely unprepared to compete until their coach ed them out at halftime. It just seems like White needs to be taught how to dominate and needs to find a couple of go-to plays like Duncan's four-down or Parker's coming off a high pick to help him on his way.

[GrandeDavid]

do a search on james white



yes he is

Just ask me, I'll pimp him out. White went to my alma mater, Cincinnati. So I have to give him some run out of university love. He needs to get stronger, I'll tell you that much.